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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4956969, member: 110504"]To wallow in the obvious (never stoppped me before), those Spanish ones are cool. And (pssst) they've traditionally been sleepers, along with contemporary Castilian ones.</p><p>Marquisate of Provence. Denier, Raymond VI (1194-1222) or VII (1222-1249).[ATTACH=full]1191574[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1191580[/ATTACH]</p><p>Obv. Crescent and sun. +DVX MARCHIO PV[VINCIE].</p><p>Rev. Cross of Toulouse. +R: COMES PALACI.</p><p>(Duplessy 1606A; a slight variant of Duplessy's variant.)</p><p>The counts of Toulouse held the marquisate /'march' of Provence. The terminology demonstrates the fluidity of the border between France and the German Empire (/former Kingdom of Burgundy). There was a marquisate of Provence on the French side, and a county on the Burgundian side. By the same token, a German county of Burgundy was across the border from the French duchy.</p><p>Similarly, the term 'dux' hadn't fully coalesced into the formal title of 'duke;' it could connote any polity that was on a frontier (hence the association with 'march' and 'marquisate').[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4956969, member: 110504"]To wallow in the obvious (never stoppped me before), those Spanish ones are cool. And (pssst) they've traditionally been sleepers, along with contemporary Castilian ones. Marquisate of Provence. Denier, Raymond VI (1194-1222) or VII (1222-1249).[ATTACH=full]1191574[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1191580[/ATTACH] Obv. Crescent and sun. +DVX MARCHIO PV[VINCIE]. Rev. Cross of Toulouse. +R: COMES PALACI. (Duplessy 1606A; a slight variant of Duplessy's variant.) The counts of Toulouse held the marquisate /'march' of Provence. The terminology demonstrates the fluidity of the border between France and the German Empire (/former Kingdom of Burgundy). There was a marquisate of Provence on the French side, and a county on the Burgundian side. By the same token, a German county of Burgundy was across the border from the French duchy. Similarly, the term 'dux' hadn't fully coalesced into the formal title of 'duke;' it could connote any polity that was on a frontier (hence the association with 'march' and 'marquisate').[/QUOTE]
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