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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4907675, member: 110504&quot;]...And, Sure, why not.&nbsp; --&#039;Time zones? we don&#039;t need your stinking time zones.&#039;&nbsp; Close enough to Monday, even here.&nbsp; It&#039;s a small planet.</p><p>This is an ecclesiastical denier of Clermont, in the county of Auvergne (northeastern Aquitaine, bordering the Duchy of Bugundy), c. 13th century.&nbsp; I don&#039;t like the &#039;portrait&#039; so much --Mary looks like she was having a bad day-- but otherwise, it&#039;s okay, I guess.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1184298[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1184299[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Bishopric of Clermont, anonymous issues, c. 13th century.</p><p>Obv. St. Mary facing, crowned.&nbsp; S.<strike>C</strike>A. MARIA.&nbsp; (&#039;S[an]cta Maria,&#039; the initial &#039;C&#039; and &#039;T&#039; of &#039;Sancta&#039; ligated.)*</p><p>Rev. Cross cantonnée.&nbsp; +VRBS. ARVERNA&nbsp; (&#039;[Capital] City of Auvergne [whether in a secular or ecclesiastical capacity]&#039;.)</p><p>*The ligature is quintessentially mid-13th-century, whether you&#039;re looking at the voided long cross pennies of Henry III, from 1247, or the contemporaneous Gothic cursive of the chronicler Matthew Paris.</p><p>By this means, the issue only emphasizes the cultural porosity of the High Gothic ethos, across political borders.&nbsp; ...Especially by this point, relative to the &#039;Angevin Empire&#039; of the preceding century.&nbsp; In that sense, it was kind of its own miniature version of Hellenism.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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