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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4862529, member: 110504"]Wow, [USER=74712]@FitzNigel[/USER], what a great idea for a thread! Too (liberatingly) free-style for someone like yours truly ever to have thought of. And look at the range! This is Fantastic.</p><p>...So I was randomly trawling through the pics on file (where I can find them), and stumbled onto my Carolingian denier with peck marks.[ATTACH=full]1174467[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1174468[/ATTACH]</p><p>It's a very common type; Melle ('METXVLLO'), issued by Charles II ('CARLVS REX,' 840-877), or (possibly) an early immobilization, into the earlier 10th century.</p><p>As lots of us here know, for later Anglo-Saxon, and contemporaneous Frisian and northern German, 'peck marks' are pretty endemic. Right, a fairly distinctly Scandinavian practice of testing the fineness of a coin. They've been kind of a personal obsession for a long time. ...Eventually, in (Graham-Campbell et al., ed.s) <u>Silver Economy in the Viking Age</u>, I saw a great article on pecking in the coins of the Cuerdale Hoard. Before the recent bombshells found by detectorists, this was the easily the largest Viking hoard found in the UK. And the author (Marion Archibald) notes the presence of pecking not only on the Anglo-Saxon coins, but on the Carolingian (and early Robertian) ones (see esp. p. 51). Since the hoard dates to "the first decade of the tenth century" (49), the pecking on the Anglo-Saxon examples already predates the glory days of AEthelred II by most of a century. But the fact that Vikings were pecking Carolingians, too, made me sit up.</p><p>The example above turned up on French ebay. On the down side, that would seem to make it less likely, on a purely statistical basis, that this one is an immobilization. ...For instance, from the later, only more chaotic (and funner --at a safe distance) period of Charles the Simple. From here, the relative crudeness of the style seems less than definitive either way. But from having been blissfully ignorant that pecking was even happening this early, to getting one in me 'ot lickle 'ands, was pretty great. The dealer had it attributed, minus the significance of the peck marks. He priced it as a generically damaged coin. ...And everyone on French ebay went along! ...Yeah, the good old days on French ebay....[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4862529, member: 110504"]Wow, [USER=74712]@FitzNigel[/USER], what a great idea for a thread! Too (liberatingly) free-style for someone like yours truly ever to have thought of. And look at the range! This is Fantastic. ...So I was randomly trawling through the pics on file (where I can find them), and stumbled onto my Carolingian denier with peck marks.[ATTACH=full]1174467[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1174468[/ATTACH] It's a very common type; Melle ('METXVLLO'), issued by Charles II ('CARLVS REX,' 840-877), or (possibly) an early immobilization, into the earlier 10th century. As lots of us here know, for later Anglo-Saxon, and contemporaneous Frisian and northern German, 'peck marks' are pretty endemic. Right, a fairly distinctly Scandinavian practice of testing the fineness of a coin. They've been kind of a personal obsession for a long time. ...Eventually, in (Graham-Campbell et al., ed.s) [U]Silver Economy in the Viking Age[/U], I saw a great article on pecking in the coins of the Cuerdale Hoard. Before the recent bombshells found by detectorists, this was the easily the largest Viking hoard found in the UK. And the author (Marion Archibald) notes the presence of pecking not only on the Anglo-Saxon coins, but on the Carolingian (and early Robertian) ones (see esp. p. 51). Since the hoard dates to "the first decade of the tenth century" (49), the pecking on the Anglo-Saxon examples already predates the glory days of AEthelred II by most of a century. But the fact that Vikings were pecking Carolingians, too, made me sit up. The example above turned up on French ebay. On the down side, that would seem to make it less likely, on a purely statistical basis, that this one is an immobilization. ...For instance, from the later, only more chaotic (and funner --at a safe distance) period of Charles the Simple. From here, the relative crudeness of the style seems less than definitive either way. But from having been blissfully ignorant that pecking was even happening this early, to getting one in me 'ot lickle 'ands, was pretty great. The dealer had it attributed, minus the significance of the peck marks. He priced it as a generically damaged coin. ...And everyone on French ebay went along! ...Yeah, the good old days on French ebay....[/QUOTE]
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