Medieval Monday!

Monday will obviously ‘begin’ at different times for different people depending on where they are - I think we can all be given some latitude on when to post here (after all - it’s meant to be a bit of fun)

 

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From my Mother's home town....

Koln
AV Goldgulden ND Bonn Mint
Friedrich III Von Saarewerden 1371-1414 Archbishop of Cologne
won from CBG/fr Auction/ France

 

One of my fanorite mailles, Duchy of Brabant, Henri II/III, 1235-48-61, of Halen (...sorry, not a fan), with the Staufen two-headed eagle.

 

Extraordinary design and a bonanza of heraldry.


Here is a denier petit from Avignon, presumably during the rule of Barral des Baux, ca. 1249-1251.


AR17mm 0.43g denier or obole, City of Avignon mint, cca. 1249.
+ AVINIO; heraldic key
+ NE-NS-IS; Long cross pattee
Boudeau 891, Poey d'Avant 4131.

Barral had a very interesting career, from leading an anti-Angevin revolt in Provence to becoming Charles I d'Anjou's main man in southern Italy in the 1260s.

 

..well, i hate not to post anything(other than Mr. Chambers) here on M M...so, after lQQking for the past few mondays for this lil hider in my files..i just retook pics of the dang thang!.. AR Akce of Mehmed ll, 1432-1481 10mm, .95gms

 

These were an impulse buy at a recent Heritage auction. This is their pictures and description. That weight can't be correct....can it. Does anyone have recommendations for good places/literature to help with attribution?




10-Piece Lot of Uncertified Assorted Deniers ND (11th-13th Century) VF, 18.1-19.9mm. Average weight 9.64gm. Lot includes (7) Besançon Deniers, (2) Philip Deniers, (1) Louis IX Denier.

 

...that's purdy kool Chris...i think you're in the right neighborhood for id purposes...if ya got an extra Phillip IV in the lot, let me know...

 

The tournois are Louis IX and Philippe IV. For them a good reference is Duplessy Royales Tome I. The other seven can be looked up Boudeau Feodales and Poey d'Avant Feodales. Poey d'Avant might actually be available online, there are three tomes from the 1850s and 1860s.

 

Kingdom of Hungary
AV Goldgulden ND Kremnitz Mint
Wladyslaw V 1453-57

 

@Chris B, I'm waiting for someone to outtype me, but the Besancon ones, with the hand raised in blessing, were issued by the archbishopric, c. 13th c. (Duplessy 3024, Roberts, Silver Coins of Medieval France, 4756.)
Obv. +PTHOMARTIR ('Protomartyr,' referring to Stephen, the town's patron saint.) Rev. +BISVNTIVM (--No Kidding! Medieval Latin for 'Besancon.')
Of the other deniers, they're presumably Philip IV (1284-1314), with the possibility (without squinting too hard) of being Philip III (1180-1223; this issue after 1204) or III (1223-1226). The Louis one, best of the lot, is definitely Louis IX (1226-1270).
Obv. 'Chatel Tournois' (evolved from temple motifs on Carolingian issues); +TVRONIS CIVIS; Rev. (variously) +PHIL[/L]IPVS REX; +LVDOVICVS REX. (Cf. Roberts pp. 129-30, with an outline and plates of the whole run.)
...Looks from here like you did good!

 

And Poey d'Avant is on Google Books, but you have to trawl for the individual volumes, of which there are at least three. In the shorter term, you could do a lot worse than the cgb Archives website. They have Lots (no pun intended --but there ya go) for both French royal and feudal issues. And they're unusually good for citing their own references, including good ol' Poey. https://www.cgbfr.com/archive.html
...Roberts is, in some ways justly, to go-to reference to look down one's nose at. But it's ideal for, say, Americans who are learning this stuff from the ground up, and I've never regretted still having my copy. It covers the gamut of French coins from Merovingian and Carolingian to royal and feudal. Not comprehensively, but admirably. And it's organized by the coins' main motifs, instead of by geography or reign, so that you can easily find unattributed coins, along with related issues. ...Out of print; hope they don't cost more instead of less.
Roberts, James N. The Silver Coins of Medieval France (476-1610 AD).
South Salem, NY: Attic Books, 1996. ISBN 0-915018-54-3.

 

The tournois of Philippe are very likely Philippe IV or at most from the monnayage comun period of 1280-1290 with Philippe III until 1285. The last one with annulated T in TVRONVS and star between PHILIPPVS and REX is particularly interesting.

 

Got my Duplessy to check on it and it's likely 223A or 223B, dated after the great debasement, to 1307-1310. In Ciani, another (by now considered obsolete) reference for royal coinage the type is assigned to Philippe V, the series of 03/01/1318.

 

Another German issue:

Mainz/ Erzbistum
AV Goldgulden ND (struck 1373) Bingen Mint
Sedisvacanz (interlude between death of late Archbishop to election of new one)

 

Thank you @seth77 @+VGO.DVCKS I found an inexpensive copy of Duplessy on Abe Books.

 

Oh, Great, @Chris B, Congratulations!!! Did you get both volumes? He's taking a long forever to finish the series, but the first two cover a Lot of ground, aggregately much, much better than anyone else has. (Right, Poey is only discretely more comprehensive, here and there, about variants; but he's doing numismatics in the 1860's.)

 

Just volume 1 for now but I will probably add the 2nd one at some point. I collect books as much as I do coins....at least that is how it feels sometimes.

Interesting (to me) note. This was on the listing for the book: Mendel Peterson's copy with his personalized bookplate to the front pastedown. Peterson was the former curator of the Smithsonian Institution and is considered to be the father of underwater archaeology.

 

Volume 1 covers a remarkable range of the stuff you see the most of --by type, that is, independently of scarcity. ...Otherwise, Roger that! Granted, my biggest weakness is for history; I end up getting numismatic books only when I can't stand to live without them any more. ...It's very cool that for the series, you're starting at the top!

 

Edward IV penny of Durham struck under Bp. Booth. This coin is somewhat problematic as the B and trefoil by the neck and D in the centre of the reverse clearly place this as the above, but the initial mark for this issue is given in Spink as either trefoil, rose or pellet in annulet. The mark is not obviously any of these, looking more like an annulet with a lis in the centre. Stewartby 6b (p.446) says (cross over?) pellet in annulet, which is presumably how he interpreted this coin being from his collection, but I struggle saying this is a cross in the middle given the shape seen. Best I can offer is that it is a reworked lis marked die that had previously been returned to London, which was reissued with pellet in annulet after modification, but the lis had not been properly erased. More research required.

 

Edward IV light coinage groat of York, mm. lis with the reverse over sun.