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<p>[QUOTE="FitzNigel, post: 4901421, member: 74712"]I’ve often thought about the similarities between coins and seals, and thought there could be an interesting study here (perhaps there already is). After all, they both perform the same function, and in some ways the same materiality. Both coins and seals have an image stamped into a material (metal or wax) which then gives a legitimacy to the item. I also think there are a few cases where the design elements overlap. I admit that my limitations of seeks I have seen have been primarily English and Scottish, but a common design element is to have the enthroned king on one side (as head of state), and the long on horseback on the other (signifying his military role). </p><p><br /></p><p>There are only a few coins I can think of which portray the long on horseback (foremost in my mind would be this one):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1182652[/ATTACH] Norman Italy - Calabria</p><p>Roger I, r. 1072-1101 (1098-1101)</p><p>Mileto Mint, AE Trifollaro, 28.04 mm x 8.3 grams</p><p>Obv.: ROG [ERVS] COME +S. Roger, mounted left wearing Norman helm, holding kite shield and striped banner</p><p>Rev.: + MARIA [MATE]R DNI (’N’ retrograde). Enthroned nimbate Virgin Mary holding on lap Christ child, nimbate and in swaddling clothes right</p><p>Ref.: NCKS 131var., MEC 14.93, De Wit 3789</p><p><br /></p><p>by the enthroned king I believe is a more common design (here is a much later coin from England):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1182654[/ATTACH] England</p><p>Henry VII, r. 1485-1509 (Bishop Richard Fox, 1494-1501)</p><p>Durham Mint, ‘Sovereign’ type AR Penny, 14.88mm x 0.63 grams</p><p>Obv.: [HENR]IC DI GR[A REX] AN. King enthroned holding orb and sceptre</p><p>Rev.: CIVITAS [DE .:.] RAM. Coat-of-arms over long cross pattée, mitre above, R left, D right</p><p>Ref.: North 1731, SCBS 2234, De Witt 3298, (Allen, Classification 3iii)</p><p>Ex. R.D. Frederick, Ex. Tradewinds Collection, Ex. CNG Auction 280, Lot 481</p><p><br /></p><p>there was also a common practice where those without seals would bite the wax on parchment to act as their seals, and I have often wondered if there might be a similar design element to the earliest Electrum coins of Ionia which merely have lines and scratches in them (perhaps imitating a tooth bite?). Mere speculation of course[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="FitzNigel, post: 4901421, member: 74712"]I’ve often thought about the similarities between coins and seals, and thought there could be an interesting study here (perhaps there already is). After all, they both perform the same function, and in some ways the same materiality. Both coins and seals have an image stamped into a material (metal or wax) which then gives a legitimacy to the item. I also think there are a few cases where the design elements overlap. I admit that my limitations of seeks I have seen have been primarily English and Scottish, but a common design element is to have the enthroned king on one side (as head of state), and the long on horseback on the other (signifying his military role). There are only a few coins I can think of which portray the long on horseback (foremost in my mind would be this one): [ATTACH=full]1182652[/ATTACH] Norman Italy - Calabria Roger I, r. 1072-1101 (1098-1101) Mileto Mint, AE Trifollaro, 28.04 mm x 8.3 grams Obv.: ROG [ERVS] COME +S. Roger, mounted left wearing Norman helm, holding kite shield and striped banner Rev.: + MARIA [MATE]R DNI (’N’ retrograde). Enthroned nimbate Virgin Mary holding on lap Christ child, nimbate and in swaddling clothes right Ref.: NCKS 131var., MEC 14.93, De Wit 3789 by the enthroned king I believe is a more common design (here is a much later coin from England): [ATTACH=full]1182654[/ATTACH] England Henry VII, r. 1485-1509 (Bishop Richard Fox, 1494-1501) Durham Mint, ‘Sovereign’ type AR Penny, 14.88mm x 0.63 grams Obv.: [HENR]IC DI GR[A REX] AN. King enthroned holding orb and sceptre Rev.: CIVITAS [DE .:.] RAM. Coat-of-arms over long cross pattée, mitre above, R left, D right Ref.: North 1731, SCBS 2234, De Witt 3298, (Allen, Classification 3iii) Ex. R.D. Frederick, Ex. Tradewinds Collection, Ex. CNG Auction 280, Lot 481 there was also a common practice where those without seals would bite the wax on parchment to act as their seals, and I have often wondered if there might be a similar design element to the earliest Electrum coins of Ionia which merely have lines and scratches in them (perhaps imitating a tooth bite?). Mere speculation of course[/QUOTE]
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