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<p>[QUOTE="Orielensis, post: 4901204, member: 96898"]Very interesting post and artifacts. I have come across all sorts of medieval religious and heraldic badges, but horse pendants are new to me. I learned something!</p><p><br /></p><p>The reciprocal influence of heraldry, seals, and coins in the Middle Ages deserves closer study. It's a complicated topic, especially since heraldry in the strict sense evolves only in the 12th century and in the beginning often repurposes devices known from earlier sphragistic material. Yet, the influence soon changes direction and coats of arms become a popular motif on coins and seals. Below are some examples.</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin is only heraldic at second sight. Yet, the lion is the lion of house Hohenstaufen. It is Frederick's way of saying "This is my mint!":</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1182602[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Nuremberg, imperial mint, under Frederick II, AR pfennig (group 6), c. 1245–1250 AD. Obv: lion walking l. within high ring; roses around. Rev: cross between two standing lions, ring and roses around (weak strike as usual). 20mm, 0.94g. Ref: Slg. Erlanger 32, Fd. Hersbruck 19, Slg. Bonhoff 2015.</font></p><p><br /></p><p>The fleur-de-lis first appears as a crown ornament on the seal of Robert II of France (r. 987–1031). Later seals show the French kings with a lily sceptre and even holding a lily. Under Louis VIII, it morphs into the French coat of arms and after a while is also found on coins:</p><p><font size="3">[ATTACH=full]1182603[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="3">Kingdom of France, Charles VI "the Well Liked" or "the Mad," AR blanc guénar, 1411 AD, Paris mint, 4th emission. Obv: +KAROLVS:FRANCORV:REX; French coat of arms; ringlet under cross in legend. Rev: +SIT:NOME: DNI:BENEDICTV, Cantoned cross with two crowns and two fleurs de lis in angles; ringlet under cross in legend. 25.5mm, 2.98g. Ref: Duplessy 377C. </font></p><p><br /></p><p>As I wrote in another <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/unusual-and-pretty-a-coin-of-the-knights-hospitaller.364458/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/unusual-and-pretty-a-coin-of-the-knights-hospitaller.364458/">thread</a>, the Knights Hospitaller used the seal of their grand masters as the obverse of their gigliati. Yet, they also added the personal arms of the respective grand master:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1182600[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Knights Hospitaller (Order of S. John) at Rhodes, under Raymond Bérenger, AR Gigliato, 1365-1374. Obv: + F RAIMUNDVS BERENGERII D GRA M; Grand Master, wearing cloak with Maltese cross on shoulder, kneeling l. in prayer before patriarchal cross set on steps; arms of Raymond Bérenger to r. Rev: + OSPITAL ♣ S • IOhS • IRLNI : QTS • RODI •; cross fleury with arms of the Knights Hospitaller at the end of each arm. 28 mm, 3.64g. Ref: Metcalf 1208–1210; CCS 22.</font></p><p><br /></p><p>All two-sided coins of the Teutonic Order show the heraldic shield of the grand master on the obverse and the shield of the order on the reverse:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1182601[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Teutonic Order, under Grand Master Winrich von Kniprode, AR schilling,1351–1382, Thorn or Danzig mint (?). Obv: + MAGST WVNRICS PRIMS; eagle shield of the Grand Master. Rev: + MONETA DNORVM PRUCI; shield of the Teutonic Order. 21mm, 1.64g. Ref: Neumann 4.</font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Orielensis, post: 4901204, member: 96898"]Very interesting post and artifacts. I have come across all sorts of medieval religious and heraldic badges, but horse pendants are new to me. I learned something! The reciprocal influence of heraldry, seals, and coins in the Middle Ages deserves closer study. It's a complicated topic, especially since heraldry in the strict sense evolves only in the 12th century and in the beginning often repurposes devices known from earlier sphragistic material. Yet, the influence soon changes direction and coats of arms become a popular motif on coins and seals. Below are some examples. This coin is only heraldic at second sight. Yet, the lion is the lion of house Hohenstaufen. It is Frederick's way of saying "This is my mint!": [ATTACH=full]1182602[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Nuremberg, imperial mint, under Frederick II, AR pfennig (group 6), c. 1245–1250 AD. Obv: lion walking l. within high ring; roses around. Rev: cross between two standing lions, ring and roses around (weak strike as usual). 20mm, 0.94g. Ref: Slg. Erlanger 32, Fd. Hersbruck 19, Slg. Bonhoff 2015.[/SIZE] The fleur-de-lis first appears as a crown ornament on the seal of Robert II of France (r. 987–1031). Later seals show the French kings with a lily sceptre and even holding a lily. Under Louis VIII, it morphs into the French coat of arms and after a while is also found on coins: [SIZE=3][ATTACH=full]1182603[/ATTACH] Kingdom of France, Charles VI "the Well Liked" or "the Mad," AR blanc guénar, 1411 AD, Paris mint, 4th emission. Obv: +KAROLVS:FRANCORV:REX; French coat of arms; ringlet under cross in legend. Rev: +SIT:NOME: DNI:BENEDICTV, Cantoned cross with two crowns and two fleurs de lis in angles; ringlet under cross in legend. 25.5mm, 2.98g. Ref: Duplessy 377C. [/SIZE] As I wrote in another [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/unusual-and-pretty-a-coin-of-the-knights-hospitaller.364458/']thread[/URL], the Knights Hospitaller used the seal of their grand masters as the obverse of their gigliati. Yet, they also added the personal arms of the respective grand master: [ATTACH=full]1182600[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Knights Hospitaller (Order of S. John) at Rhodes, under Raymond Bérenger, AR Gigliato, 1365-1374. Obv: + F RAIMUNDVS BERENGERII D GRA M; Grand Master, wearing cloak with Maltese cross on shoulder, kneeling l. in prayer before patriarchal cross set on steps; arms of Raymond Bérenger to r. Rev: + OSPITAL ♣ S • IOhS • IRLNI : QTS • RODI •; cross fleury with arms of the Knights Hospitaller at the end of each arm. 28 mm, 3.64g. Ref: Metcalf 1208–1210; CCS 22.[/SIZE] All two-sided coins of the Teutonic Order show the heraldic shield of the grand master on the obverse and the shield of the order on the reverse: [ATTACH=full]1182601[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Teutonic Order, under Grand Master Winrich von Kniprode, AR schilling,1351–1382, Thorn or Danzig mint (?). Obv: + MAGST WVNRICS PRIMS; eagle shield of the Grand Master. Rev: + MONETA DNORVM PRUCI; shield of the Teutonic Order. 21mm, 1.64g. Ref: Neumann 4.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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