Maybe I'm just getting too old!

Do I have a "kick me" sign on my back?

 

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Ah yes, the age old complaint of "What's wrong with young people these days".

How do you know these members are all "young collectors"? A lot of the members don't post their age.

Also, from your post it sounded like you are a proponent of corporal punishment. So do you thing all the members of CT should give you one lashing with a wet noodle for posting a non-numismatic thread in a section designated for numismatic topics?

 

I disagree with that also - not the principal, but the wording. I won't even get into "politically correct", but there are lots of ways of telling someone they are looking at trouble without being "un"-nice. That was most of BNB's problem. Not what he said, but how he said it

 

Heck, we took that sign off a long time ago and replaced it with.......


I'm a sucker for busty women!

 

Ironically, I believe Socratic method to be the most effective form of teaching in existence. I had a professor in college (Dr. Hertzberg) who taught fracture mechanics. Early in the semester, he asked me a question at the beginning of the class. I had not completed the reading assignment for the class and could not answer his question. He proceeded to ask me leading questions until the class was over. It was brutal but I learned more in that hour than I had in all of the previous classes combined. I also learned another important lesson. Show up prepared or don't show up at all.

Don't blame technology Chris, blame the teachers who don't challenge our children whether they like it or not. I say eliminate multiple choice tests.

 

Lol!!

 

Just think of me as your friendly drill sergeant in basic training.

Chris

 

Yes, the events that you listed are part of that quality of life and the events I mentioned were part of our not so nice life of the earlier times. Just as a for-instance, the last I heard, more Americans died in the Civil War than all the rest of our wars put together - including OKC (I lived it), the WTC, etc. A BIG part of what seems so bad today is the news. No that they are wrong, but just that you hear EVERYTHING - literally.

 

I'm not blaming technology, but I do disagree with the methodology of how it is applied. In your case, Dr. Hertzberg had the right idea. He made you squirm in your chair the entire time, and it probably made a better person of you. I think most kids today would find it easier to switch classes or take a WP.

Chris

 

So how would it be dangerous to be nice and respectful to others as related to a discussion of coins? Is it somehow dangerous for someone with less experience to purchase a coin or make a mistake in collecting that you believe to be wrong?

Some have always considered the younger generations to be inferior, spoiled, disrespectful, and out of control.
Personally I don't.
I consider the older generation (my gerenration) to be impatient with youth and tend to place a premium on the self instead of others.

Perhaps the generation before our was correct in that we are a disrespectful and spoiled generation

 

Howdy guys. Not much of a person to get in on these things but had to jump in on this one as I am 18 and consider myself one of these "younger collectors." First off, calcualtors are amazing and if you'd ever taken calculas (not saying you haven't) you'd appreciate them a lot. Every generation has had the exact same complaint as you are having. As technology advances we are growing significantly more independant from eachother. I'm sure your parents complained about how "rowdy" kids were when you were younger. Each generation is completely different from the one before it. Just compare how kids in the 40's and 50's to kids in the 60's and 70's. I agree with you on the politically correct part of education though. I know of a teacher who was fired for having a little Lords Prayer thing IN HER DESK and giving her children time to pray before lunch. Not making them, just giving them like two minutes to do it before they left. I come from a town who puts little emphasis on education (imo). We encourage our kids to graduate but not necessarily to succeed. Current (american) high school education will no more prepare a kid for the real world today then will going to the movies prepare you for the zombie apocolypse. And then there's the parents. You have to realize that how kids act is based off how their parents raised them. Sure, you have the minority that go all rebelious and such but a large emphasis on how we act when we are older is based on how we were raised. If a parent raises a child and gives them little attention (most families have two working parents) and no responsibilities (just look around and see how many teenagers have jobs), they are more likely to be rebelious and disrespect authority. Personally, I was raised by good, Christian parents and have the utmost respect for anyone older than me (who knows what they're talking about of course). I see no problem with disciplining the young (paddles in school would be great) and can see your point of view. However, us young folks aren't near as bad as you may think. I enjoy this forum and have learned a lot from it. Thank you to anyone who took the time to read this.
Sincerely,
Tyler

P.S. I'm pretty sure I misspelled some words. Believe me, I'm good with numbers, not letters.

P.S.S. also, sorry if i went off on a couple tangents. Thats my writing style. Uses up words in those english essays.

 

IMO todays young men are trapped in an environment that is very volitile for them. The ways for them to learn to be a man and show there muscles, prove their metal have been taken away. 1. Everyone is equal we all get a trorhy after the season.
2. They no longer are to be the bread winners or the head of the house.
3. Physical labor jobs are a thing of the past for most of our kids.
4. They are bumbarded with Worthless rolemodels on TV and Internet.
5. Most kids today never go camping,hunting or fishing.
6. To little time at home as ussually both parents work fulltime to live the American dream.
and so on and so on but my point is that they have no outlet for there basic need to be recognized as a man so they act out and push the boundaries of our society to at least let everyone know that I am someone.

 

Corporal punishment? High school and college athletic coaches use it every day. It's part of the training. So, what's the difference if it happens to be meted out by an English teacher?

Coin Chat - The description states that it is for numismatic topics that aren't specifically covered in another section. I believe my discussion is referring to young collectors who want their lessons delivered to them on a silver platter.

Chris

PS. I don't care for my noodles al dente.

 

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The death rate in the US in 1900 was 17.2 /1000 , in 2008 it was 8.27 %, If technology advances didn't occur , we would be looking at 17.2/1000 x 301million =5,177,200 deaths in 2008 instead of 2,489,270, a difference of 2,687,930 in the US alone.

Average age of death born 1900 for white males 48.3....born 2000 74.8
Average age of death born 1900 for white females 51.08...born 2000 80.0
Average age of death born 1900 for non-white male 32.54...born 2000 68.3
Average age of death born 1900for non-white female 35.4...born 2000 75.0


The largest changes are in the under 5 year group as before most vaccines, and antibiotics, anti-virals, nuclear medicine , etc. they had a horrible death rate.

Technology and social relationships may not be the same as before, but overall , I think that the average person is more educated, heathier, and economically sound than a century or more ago. IMO

 

I did take calculas and we had these things called slide rules so you can see why we sometimes say kids these days don't appreciate what happened in the few years before I was born they got to the moon using slide rules. Ice

 

I'm very much aware that coaches use it. I've played baseball and football all my life along with boxing, and just as a side note, I am a supporter of it.

But back to the topic, in most cases how do you know if the member is a young collector? I know unless the poster mentions their age I have no clue how old they are.

 

You don't unless they post their age. Not too long ago I remember when we were surprised to find a very intelligent, engaging member was only 13 years old. I was stunned and very pleasantly surprised. His forum name initials are (FG).

He hasn't been around much lately but he certainly provided a lot of information and participated as an experienced, educated collector.

 

Tyler,

I took calculus in 10th grade, 1962-1963 school year, and your mention of the slide rule reminded me of an incident when I was watching Apollo 13 with some friends who happened to be about 20 years younger. When one of the engineers pulled out a slide rule to make some computations for the "sling" around the moon, one of my friends asked what it was he was using. Yeah, I felt old then, too!

I never use "Spell Check". My grandmother got me hooked on crossword puzzles when I was 5, and by the time I was 7, she had to hide the newspaper from me whenever we visited.

Being rebellious for a principle or just in good-hearted fun is one thing, but being rebellious to draw attention to yourself or because you feel sorry for yourself doesn't cut it with me. Life is what you make it.

Chris