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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2754044, member: 19463"]That is a really exceptional specimen of the super rare issue but I would warn anyone wishing to get one that this of all issues really needs to be pedigreed as is this one "129". The attribution to Constantine XI for these coins is based on their being part of the hoard which was studied and documented completely. The value of the coin depends a lot on its association with the hoard because there are other coins of earlier rulers that could be mistaken for these but don't carry the premium of being the 'last' coins. I remember when the hoard came out that some of the lesser ones were really ugly and struck me as too easily confused with the cheaper ones in low grades (the OP coin is 'Prooflike' for these). </p><p><br /></p><p>I have a larger coin (called half hyperpyron when I bought it in CNG51 but more recently termed stavraton). I consider it very important that it shows at the outer top the letters IW establishing it is not the rare coin of that size which starts KW. None of these are full legend but the people with illegible coins not linkable to the hoard literature who assume the may, maybe, have a Constantine XI are really fooling themselves. We tell people to buy from good sources. C XI is one you only buy with pedigree papers.</p><p>[GALLERY=media, 6418]John VIII by dougsmit posted May 29, 2017 at 11:58 AM[/GALLERY][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2754044, member: 19463"]That is a really exceptional specimen of the super rare issue but I would warn anyone wishing to get one that this of all issues really needs to be pedigreed as is this one "129". The attribution to Constantine XI for these coins is based on their being part of the hoard which was studied and documented completely. The value of the coin depends a lot on its association with the hoard because there are other coins of earlier rulers that could be mistaken for these but don't carry the premium of being the 'last' coins. I remember when the hoard came out that some of the lesser ones were really ugly and struck me as too easily confused with the cheaper ones in low grades (the OP coin is 'Prooflike' for these). I have a larger coin (called half hyperpyron when I bought it in CNG51 but more recently termed stavraton). I consider it very important that it shows at the outer top the letters IW establishing it is not the rare coin of that size which starts KW. None of these are full legend but the people with illegible coins not linkable to the hoard literature who assume the may, maybe, have a Constantine XI are really fooling themselves. We tell people to buy from good sources. C XI is one you only buy with pedigree papers. [GALLERY=media, 6418]John VIII by dougsmit posted May 29, 2017 at 11:58 AM[/GALLERY][/QUOTE]
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