Featured Maximinus Thrax

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Tejas, Jun 9, 2021.

  1. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    I have a question.

    From what I’ve read by the 3rd century the denarius was heavily debased.

    How come most of you guys have denarii from this period that look like very high purity silver?
     
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  3. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    Here is my only Max Thrax denarius:

    Maximinus I Thrax AR Denarius RIC 18A, RSC 9.jpg

    And, for the second time in a few minutes, my only Max Thrax sestertius:

    Maximinus I Thrax Sestertius.jpg
     
  4. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Why does your denarius look like high purity silver too?

    Wasn’t the denarius super debased by the 3rd century?

    I could’ve sworn I read that by the 3rd century the denarius was only about 48.5% pure whereas yours looks like 85%+ purity.
     
  5. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    The obverse legend on your sestertius seems to be MAXIMINVS PIVS AVG GERM, which is the legend for RIC 85 (http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.max_i.85); also the portrait style seems to be of late style, maybe 236 - 237 AD?
     
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  6. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    You're right about the decline in fineness. Here's a chart:
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    So why do the coins from emperors low on this list look so nice and pure? My understanding (which I'm getting from Warren Esty) is that it's a metallurgical thing. Coins with low fineness will typically have enriched (80%+) surface silver content because of striking. Silver is more malleable and so it moves more easily to the surface when the coin is struck; the copper tends to stay in the core of the coin. Cutting one open will demonstrate this. I don't advise it though!
     
  7. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Ohhh that makes sense.

    But on the chart it says the Antoninus Pius denarius is 3.21 grams.

    Mine is 3.55 is that just due to not being able to produce them very accurately?

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  8. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Two words: Depletion Silvering.

     
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  9. RichardT

    RichardT Well-Known Member

    You had asked almost the same question literally a week ago. You may like to read Roman Collector's post again. He has already explained it.


     
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  10. Tejas

    Tejas Well-Known Member

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  11. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    I have a really bad memory ever since I got my head injury.

    Sometimes I ask the same thing more than once but I hate it just as much as others do because it's extremely frustrating.
     
  12. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    My Sestertius
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    Maximinus I Thrax AD 235-238. Rome
    Sestertius Æ
    30 mm., 19,25 g.
    RIC IV Maximinus Thrax 64
    Date Range: AD 235 - AD 236
    Obverse Legend: IMP MAXIMINVS PIVS AVG
    Type: Bust of Maximinus I, laureate, draped, cuirassed, right
    Reverse Legend: SALVS AVGVSTI S C
    Type: Salus, draped, seated left, feeding out of patera in right hand snake coiled round altar
     
  13. RichardT

    RichardT Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry to hear this. I hope you're feeling better, and I do apologise.
     
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  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    You are correct much to my shame. I've has the coin for a very long time, so my only excuse is my lack of skills and knowledge at that time. Thanks for the correction and I will change it forthwith.
     
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  15. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Dombes collector Supporter

    My two Max Thrax and his wife Paulina


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  16. Broucheion

    Broucheion Supporter! Supporter

    Hi @johnmilton,

    A Thrax Pax! (I couldn’t resist. )

    - Broucheion
     
  17. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    I think those are very nice…
     
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