Maximinus II .. the last Pharaoh??

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  1. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Supporter! Supporter

    Haven't purchased too many coins lately - but very happy with this latest addition (thought I should post now - prior to the AMCC 3 Auction madness!).

    The coin features a really interesting patina that has formed over remaining silvering - for a nice effect. Plus who doesn't love a coin featuring a Serapis severed head and the flowing robes of Sol??

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    Maximinus II
    A.D. 312
    21mm 4.9g
    IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG; laureate head right.
    SOLI INVICTO; Sol standing left in long robe, right hand raised, left hand holding head of Serapis; BI in left and ✶ in right field.
    In ex. ANT



    While reading up on the coin, and Maximinus II, I was interested to learn that he was the last Roman Emperor (and ruler overall) to be accorded the title "Pharaoh of Egypt". Although Roman Emperors generally only acknowledged the title whilst visiting Egypt.

    I was always under the impression that Cleopatra VII was the final Pharaoh.. however her co-ruler Caesarian (her son with Julius Caesar) lived for some months (on the run) before his eventual murder at aged 17... so perhaps its Caesarian (Ptolemy XV Caesar) is considered the last by many?

    The first dynasty of Egypt started at approximately 3150 BC .. if you are one that includes the Roman Pharaohs (started by Octavian - also called the 34th Dynasty) this title survived in Egypt unbroken (perhaps?) for approximately 3500 years..
    During this 3500 years there have been many Persians and Greeks claiming the title of Pharaoh - so why not acknowledge the Roman claim?

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    Gaius Iulius Caesar Augustus depicted Egyptian style on the free-standing temple of Kalabsha in Egyptian Nubia


    Please share any coins of Maximinus II and/or your thoughts on Pharaonic succession.

    Thank you for looking!
     
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  3. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    In that case, this thread needs a Maximinus coin from Egypt!

    Great coin too! That reverse is beautiful!
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    Maximinus II - Alexandria - RIC 139b
    (and yep, the patina is red! It’s a bit more vibrant here with the green background but pretty much what it looks like in sunlight.)
     
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Interesting write-up and attractively patinated coin, @Clavdivs! I have no thoughts about the Pharaonic succession, but do have this one to share.

    Maximinus II Daia GENIO AVGVSTI follis.jpg
    Maximinus II Daza, AD 309-313, as Augustus
    Roman Æ follis; 21.4 mm, 4.88 g, 12 h
    Antioch, AD 312
    Obv: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, laureate head, right
    Rev: GENIO AVGVSTI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chlamys over left shoulder, holding head of Sol and cornucopiae; *|Z //ANT
    Refs: RIC 164b; Cohen 21; RCV 14840.
     
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  5. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    I agree with Caesarion being the last pharaoh of Egypt.

    Caesarion pharaoh of Egypt.jpg
    P1180760 maximinus daia II -b.jpg
     
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  6. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    Very nice coins. Caesarion died before he could get his Chariot license
     
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  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    The last emperor whose name was inscribed in hieroglyphs inside the royal cartouche was Trajan Decius at the temple of Esna.

    The last emperor whose coins featured the syncretic god Serapis was Maximinus Daia.

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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Cool Fun Fact, @Clavdivs ...

    personally, I am in the Caesarian Camp as last Pharaoh. However, I understand the Roman Emperors were designated Pharaohs of the Province of Egypt.

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    RI Maximinus II Daia 305-308 CE Folles AE 26mm Trier mint GENIO POPV-LI Genius-Serapis Modius on head standing RIC VI Treveri 667b
     
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  9. Ryro

    Ryro The last of the Diadochi Supporter

    If it wasn't Casaerian then it was/is @Alegandron .
    But can we talk about the elephant in the room!?!?
    A bunch of sickos are posting pictures of the severed head of a GOD!!:dead::vamp:...
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    MAXIMINUS II DAIA

    (310-313). Follis. Antioch.
    20 mm, 4,68 g
    Obv: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG.
    Laureate head right.
    Rev: GENIO AVGVSTI / * / B / ANT.
    Genius standing left, holding head of Sol and cornucopia.
    RIC VI, S. 643, 164 (b).
    2021 Elkowicz

    ...:troll:
    Had to get one as soon as I first saw one.
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    LOL!

    Mine had a head on the platter, but it fell off and rolled off the coin.
     
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  11. gsimonel

    gsimonel Supporter! Supporter

    He also minted this type in the name of Constantine:
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    Cyzicus mint, A.D. 311-312
    RIC 92, var.
    Obv: IMP C FL VAL CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
    Rev: SOLE IN-VICTO - Sol, radiate, wearing long robe and holding head of Serapis
    MKV in exergue; Γ in left field
    22 mm, 5.4 g.
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Perhaps the last true Pharaoh...

     
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  13. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    I like your argument! I'm happy to consider Max II as the last pharaoh, and Caesarion as the last pharaoh to live in Egypt. (Or was that Domitius Domitianus??)

    My most relevant coin is an ex Dattari (Alexandria mint):
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    Your new coin is fantastic. I like the look of patinated silver(ing) too, though I suspect it is a taste acquired by ancient coin nerds only. :D Here are a couple of mine:

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    geta colours.jpg
     
  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Max II is pretty cool! This one is pretty rough but it does the trick.
    Maximinus II AE Follis RIC VI Cyzicus 84a V.jpg
     
  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Maximinus II 7.jpg
    MAXIMINUS II DAIA
    AE Follis
    OBVERSE: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS PF AVG, laureate head right
    REVERSE: GENI-O-AVGVSTI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked except for chlamys over left shoulder, holding head of Serapis and cornucopiae. X-A across fields; ALE in ex.
    Struck at Alexandria 312 AD
    4.83g, 21mm
    RIC VI 149b
    Ex Spink
    Maximinus II 6.jpg
    MAXIMINUS II DAIA
    AE Follis
    OBVERSE: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS PF AVG, laureate head right
    REVERSE: GENIO EX-ERCITVS, Genius standing left by altar, modius on head, naked except for chlamys over left shoulder (falls low), holding patera from which liquid flows, and cornucopiae. Crescent in upper left field, epsilon over delta in right field. ANT in ex.
    Struck at Antioch 310-311 AD
    6.2g, 23mm
    RIC VI 147c
     
  16. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    here's Maximinus dressed to impress

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    Maximinus II
    A.D. 309- 310
    Ӕ follis 26mm 6.4g
    MAXIMINVS NOB CAES; Helmeted and cuirassed bust left, holding spear over his right shoulder and shield decorated with two horsemen riding to left, four enemies below them; on cuirass, gorgoneion; on helmet, Sol standing facing in quadriga, raising his right hand in salute and holding globe in his left, around, stars and crescent, crest ending in griffin.
    VIRTVS EXERCITVS; Mars standing front, head to left, resting right hand on decorated shield and holding spear in left; in field to left, lighted altar; B in right field.
    In ex. ANT
    RIC VI Antioch 125
     
  17. Etcherman

    Etcherman Active Member

    If you consider that Augustus, victor of the Egyptian spoils, was a defacto pharaoh, his successors were too.
     
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  18. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Supporter! Supporter

    Is he ever! Spectacular coin!! WOW.
     
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  19. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great Maximinus @Victor_Clark - I have been looking for one of that heroic type for awhile now.
     
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