Maximinus II Daia

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  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    This guy arrived in the mail today. I really liked the reverse design with Sol holding the head of Serapis. It matches well with the one I picked up in my lot of $8 Ancients with Genius holding Victory. This coin was a wee bit more, at $14, but I still think it's pretty well priced. Why are Maximinus II coins so pricey btw?

    Properly ID'ing it has been a bit more difficult since I haven't been able to find an exact match anywhere. The closest I can find is RIC 167b. Is that the closest I will be able to get? I wasn't sure if the different officinas would be different RIC entries or not.


    Maximinus II, Follis, SOLI INVICTO, ANT.png
    Maximinus II
    Follis
    312 AD
    Antioch
    Obverse: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG; laureate head right.
    Reverse: SOLI INVICTO; Sol standing left in long robe, right hand raised, left hand holding head of Serapis; crescent over I in right field.
    Mintmark: ANT


    If anyone feels like it, share your Maximinus II Daia coins :) I wonder how many interesting reverses we can show.
     
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  3. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    I’m sad, cause I don’t have one…….
     
  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Here is the other one that came this week:
    The obverse is a bit rough but the reverse is pretty nice and I LOVE the Victory.

    Maximinus II, Follis, GENIO AVGVSTI, ANT.png

    Maximinus II
    AE Follis
    312 AD
    Obverse: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, laureate head right
    Reverse: GENIO AVGVSTI, Genius standing left, holding head of Sol and cornucopiae; star left, H right.
    Mintmark ANT
     
  5. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    What do you call A blind Dinosaur………..
     
  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    Your coin is RIC VI Antioch 154c and has a reverse of SOLE. The workshop does not change the RIC number.
     
  7. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    @furryfrog02.......Nice examples!...Great detail of Sol and especially the Serapis head.:woot:....And as you said 'a lovely Victory'...Congrats on a couple of cool pick ups!
    Here's one from Alexandria...RIC#IV 107.
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  8. Andres2

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  9. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Bought a Maximinus Daia recently just because I didn't have one of this emperor who was the last person with the title of Pharaoh. Maximinus's status as a non-Christian accorded the priests of Egypt an opportunity to style him as Pharaoh.

    This coin was struck after Maximinus II took the territory of Galerius (which included Nicomedia) in 311 and before Licinius took it from Maximinus II in 313 AD.

    Æ Follis, Nicomedia (Izmit), 3rd officina, c. May 310 – May 311 AD
    RIC VI 66c; Failmezger 191b

    Ob.: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, Laureate head right
    Rev.: GENIO AV-GVSTI CMH (ligate), Genius standing ¾ front, head to left, wearing kalathos, modius on head and holding in his r. hand patera from which liquid flows and cornucopiae in his left; SMNΓ in exergue

    The legend GENIO AVGVSTI is extended with a monogram, which most authors say is "CMH” (ligated), at Nicomedia and Cyzicus. If that is "CMH" as many authors think, it might be that the "MH" which is "48" (in Greek), means that they were struck 48 to the Roman pound.
    SMN = Sacra Moneta Nicomedia or Sigmata Moneta Nicomedia (money struck at Nicomedia), Γ = 3rd officina

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  10. Ryro

    Ryro The last of the Diadochi Supporter

    Very cool been patina!
    I bought mine for the silly face he is making and the macabre look of the reverse:
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  11. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    Nice coins, everyone. I have only one example, not counting my so-called "persecution" issue:

    Maximinus II (Daia) Caesar (nephew of Galerius) , AE Follis, 308-309 AD, Antioch Mint (2nd Officina).. Obv. Laureate head right, GAL VAL MAXIMINVS NOB CAES/ Rev. Genius standing left with chlamys over left shoulder and modius on head, holding cornucopiae in left arm and holding patera, from which libations flow, in extended right hand; crescent in upper left field and S [= 2nd Officina] in right field; GENIO CA-ESARIS*; in exergue, mintmark ANT [=Antioch]. RIC VI 103 (p. 631), Sear RCV IV 14725, Cohen 40-41. 25 mm., 6.90 g.

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  12. ominus1

    ominus1 When in Rome, do as the Romans do Supporter

    kool!..i recently got him too :)... IMG_0567.JPG IMG_0568.JPG Maximinus ll Daia as Caesar, 23mm, 5.70gms
     
  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    That's a great deal, @furryfrog02! Mine is a Genio Augusti from Antioch:

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    Maximinus II Daia, AD 309-313, as Augustus.
    Roman Æ follis, 21.4 mm, 4.88 g, 12 h.
    Antioch, AD 312.
    Obv: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, laureate head, right.
    Rev: GENIO AVGVSTI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chlamys over left shoulder, holding head of Sol and cornucopiae; *|Z //ANT.
    Refs: RIC 164b; Cohen 21; RCV 14840.
     
  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    The GENIO AVGVSTI is common and generic, but I like them to an extent. My best one is this rather small 19mm "reduced follis" or whatever you like to call them.

    I love how Oriental the portraits on many of these coins look, especially from the eastern mints.
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  15. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    The Antioch portraits look remarkably crude with little attempt to convey a reasonably accurate representation of detail when compared to the Heraclea above or this one from London. Any reason why this should be?
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  16. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I really like the varying designs.

    This one has a nice green patina and a nice portrait. I got it from Warren Esty's "Inexpensive" page.
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    Maximinus II
    Follis
    Thessalonica
    312 AD
    Obverse: MAXIMINVS PF AVG, laureate head right
    Reverse: IOVI CONSERVATORI, Jupiter standing left, holding Victory on globe and leaning on sceptre, wreath left, Epsilon right. Mintmark dot SM dot TS dot.

    (Though I see no Victory...)
     
  17. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I have no idea. Potentially an Eastern thing where they orientalized some portraits.

    I saw somewhere a marble statue of Maximinus with the same shovel-face, which proves that this wasn't isolated to coins. However, I've been unable to find that picture again, oddly enough.
     
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  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

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    There was a time I was buying any pretty coin from workshop 9.
     
  19. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    That is a nice one! I can definitely see myself picking more of these up if I can find them at an affordable price
    Whose head is he holding?
     
  20. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Supporter! Supporter

    Well we can only beg for so long....until we find one....


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    This example is pretty cool... patina + silvering + toning!
    I love it!!!
     
  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    That is a bust of the god Serapis. One does not dismember a god so we must call this a statue.
     
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