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<p>[QUOTE="maridvnvm, post: 2843081, member: 31620"]Welcome to the joys of RIC V. As a Probus collector I lived with this pain for a while until I came to accept that RIC V is often wrong and certainly incomplete. All volumes of RIC will be incomplete as many examples have come to light since they were written. Even if they were re-written and updated with current knowledge then new examples would soon turn up and make them incomplete.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is a convention that several of us use when placing coins such as this.</p><p><br /></p><p>First find the matching reverse legend. (gives RIC 557 - 563)</p><p>Now find the matching reverse type with this legend. (narrows to 560, 561, 562)</p><p>Now find the matching obverse legend. (narrows to 560)</p><p>Now find the matching bust type. (Bust listed)</p><p>Now find matching mintmarks. (Listed for //SXXIT, //TXXIT and T | _ // XXIT, your mark not listed)</p><p><br /></p><p>So from this we can conclude the attribution for the coin is:-</p><p><br /></p><p>RIC V Pt. 2 560 Bust Type C var. (unlisted officina for this issue). </p><p><br /></p><p>I would add the following note. This reverse type is known to be produced at officina 1 and 2 and thus this is not an unexpected variety.</p><p><br /></p><p>Using the above convention allows us to place unlisted coin in a suitable position relative to other RIC coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Unlisted reverse legends typically follow alphabetically.</p><p>Unlisted reverse types with an existing legend can be added at the end of the reverse legends</p><p>Unlisted obverse legends can be added relatively easily. If the legend is one of the numbered ones then RIC lists them in this number order. If a coin is listed with Obverse legend 4 then if your example has Obverse legend 3 then is goes before it between the previous RIC entry and the one with Obverse legend 4. Similarly for higher numbered obverse legends. For non numbered legends then RIC varies in their treatment but it is usual for them to place them after the last numbered obverse legend.</p><p>Unlisted bust types become a var. with unlisted bust type.</p><p>Unlisted mintmarks become a var with unlisted mintmark</p><p><br /></p><p>Just a suggestion.</p><p><br /></p><p>By the way I have looked through La Venera and whilst the types is mentioned it is not found in the hoard. The issues with S ot T in the field also appears to be quite scarce. Overall a very nice find.</p><p><br /></p><p>Martin[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="maridvnvm, post: 2843081, member: 31620"]Welcome to the joys of RIC V. As a Probus collector I lived with this pain for a while until I came to accept that RIC V is often wrong and certainly incomplete. All volumes of RIC will be incomplete as many examples have come to light since they were written. Even if they were re-written and updated with current knowledge then new examples would soon turn up and make them incomplete. There is a convention that several of us use when placing coins such as this. First find the matching reverse legend. (gives RIC 557 - 563) Now find the matching reverse type with this legend. (narrows to 560, 561, 562) Now find the matching obverse legend. (narrows to 560) Now find the matching bust type. (Bust listed) Now find matching mintmarks. (Listed for //SXXIT, //TXXIT and T | _ // XXIT, your mark not listed) So from this we can conclude the attribution for the coin is:- RIC V Pt. 2 560 Bust Type C var. (unlisted officina for this issue). I would add the following note. This reverse type is known to be produced at officina 1 and 2 and thus this is not an unexpected variety. Using the above convention allows us to place unlisted coin in a suitable position relative to other RIC coins. Unlisted reverse legends typically follow alphabetically. Unlisted reverse types with an existing legend can be added at the end of the reverse legends Unlisted obverse legends can be added relatively easily. If the legend is one of the numbered ones then RIC lists them in this number order. If a coin is listed with Obverse legend 4 then if your example has Obverse legend 3 then is goes before it between the previous RIC entry and the one with Obverse legend 4. Similarly for higher numbered obverse legends. For non numbered legends then RIC varies in their treatment but it is usual for them to place them after the last numbered obverse legend. Unlisted bust types become a var. with unlisted bust type. Unlisted mintmarks become a var with unlisted mintmark Just a suggestion. By the way I have looked through La Venera and whilst the types is mentioned it is not found in the hoard. The issues with S ot T in the field also appears to be quite scarce. Overall a very nice find. Martin[/QUOTE]
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