Maximianus GENIO POPVLI ROMANI from Alexandria

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  1. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I just bought this Maximianus GENIO POPVLI ROMANI from Alexandria.

    Is it special...if so why?



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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  4. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    the bird helps to distinguish it from other series, but is not what makes it special.

    here's another one from Constantius I


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  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I know this was the series being struck at Alexandria when Domitius Domitianus revolted, but is there something else here I'm not seeing?
     
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  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Yes, these coins were struck by Domitius Domitianus.
     
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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I sure wouldn't mind one. You could almost forgive them for being Genius standing folles :D.
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    How do we know that these had anything to do with DD as opposed to being the coin types struck immediately before or after he was on the scene? I admit a pet peeve of people assigning Vetranio's name to other coins with the reverses he used including those of Constantius Gallus who did not arrive as Caesar until Vetranio was past tense. Ditto for Aureolus. If these had a good link to DD, I suspect dealers would love to relabel their stock. Humor: Did you notice the issue, including DD of the usual legend, is rated Common by RIC. The fact you show coins less than mint state suggests they may be less easily found.

    Is my coin a Martinian? Distant relative?
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  9. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I'm stumped. Any hints?
     
  10. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Neither Martinian nor Licinius would have struck coins for Constantine during this period because of the circumstances surrounding the elevation of Martininian- namely the second civil war between Constantine and Licinius.

    How do we know that the GENIO coins were struck by Domitius. Well, of course we are not 100% sure, as a written account of this has not survived, explicitly stating that he struck these coins; but we can look at the coins. Coins in his name, which were surely struck by him, are from the same series. RIC VI says "and the addition of an eagle (symbol of power) combine to suggest strongly that Domitius now gained control of Alexandria, coining in the name of the tetrarchs as well as in his own"" (pg 650) So it does not seem like too big a leap to think he struck these in the names of other rulers, especially as he was trying to gain recognition from who he considered the legitimate rulers


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  11. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I will be keeping my eyes open for one of these now. Thanks, @Victor_Clark!
     
  12. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Success! I picked up the ex Dattari coin below for a bid of 40 euros... I think that was a good deal!

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    Thanks again, Victor! @Victor_Clark
     
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  13. randygeki

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  14. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen much of @Victor_Clark lately...wonder what he's up too.
     
  15. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Here is my educational site on these issues from Alexandria with the eagle:

    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/usurpers/Usurpers.html

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    Domitius Domitianus
    27 mm. 10.01 grams.
    IMP C L DOMITVS DOMITIANVS AVG
    laureate head right
    GENIO POPVLI ROMANI
    Genius standing left holding patera and cornucopia
    eagle at feet left and B in field right
    ALE = Alexandria mint, in exergue
    RIC VI Alexandria 20, page 663
     
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  16. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    @Severus Alexander , your Constantius version is really special and you got a super bargain. Congratulations!
     
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  17. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    :shame: Thanks, @Valentinian! Coming from you, that gives me the tingles!

    But you have the real thing... your DD is amazing. :wideyed:
     
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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    That is just plain fantastic. This Ruler is missing from my collection. I enjoy the Usurpers!
     
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