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<p>[QUOTE="Jochen1, post: 3373618, member: 103829"]Dear friends of ancient mythology!</p><p><br /></p><p>Marsyas is a famous tragic figure of the Greek mythology. Here I will tell his story. But first a coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>1st coin:</b></p><p>Phrygia, Apameia, pseudo-autonomous, c.3rd century AD</p><p>AE 19, 3.29g, 225°</p><p>obv. ΔH - MOC</p><p>Bearded bust of Demos, draped, r.</p><p>rev. AΠA - MEΩ - N (starting at 3 o'clock)</p><p>Marsyas, nude, with waving nebris behind, tip-toed walking r., playing on double</p><p>flute</p><p>ref. SNG Copenhagen 200; SNG München 137; BMC 50</p><p>VF, sand patina</p><p>[ATTACH=full]894887[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Mythology:</b></p><p>Marsyas was a Silen or Satyr, an attendant of Pan, who found the flute, which some time before was invented by Athena.</p><p><br /></p><p>But seeing her face in a mirror and how awful it looks when she played the flute and how all other goddesses were laughing about her, she throw it away with the curse that he who would raise the flute should suffer the worst fate. This Marsyas didn't know! He learned to play the flute better and better and when he felt at top of his art he coltish challenged Apollon for a competition. The winner should be allowed to do with the loser what he wants. Arbiters should be the Muses. But Apollo outsmarted Marsyas. When playing his Kithara he started to sing. This was not possible for Marsyas. So he lost the competition. And Apollon hung him on a tree and commanded a Skyth to skin Marsyas alive. It is said that by his blood - or the tears of the Muses and the other Satyrs - the river Marsyas has arised. (Ovid Met. VI, 382-400).</p><p><br /></p><p>Cultural-historical the meaning of Marsyas exhausted not in being a clumsy Satyr. He originally was a Phrygian river god or a spring daimon of the river Marsyas which flow in the valley Aulokrene near Kelainai. He was the protecting heroe of Kelainai and played an important part in the defense against the Galati (the Anatolic Gauls). Already early he came into the circle of Kybele. Only the Greek made him a Satyr.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Excursion: The double flute (Auloi)</b></p><p>Aulos means 'playing the aulos' (with and without singing), the so-called auletik, but the corpus, the instrument, too. It is more correct to say <i>Auloi</i> in plural because it were double pipes. They could be half looped, total looped, with holes at the side or holes at the underside. They could be tuned: at drinking binges they were used in unison, at marriage ceremonies in octave distance. Sometimes it could be seen that the two pipes have different lengths. It is discussed that one pipe plays the melody the other the accompanist.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>And actually the aulos is not a flute but a reed- (tongue-) instrument, so rather a simple double oboe!</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p>The aulos has a tongue piece, an upper beginning part, the actual pipe and the grip holes. The aulos was called by Pindar and Euripides '<i>kalamos</i>' or <i>'Libyan lotos'</i>. The aulos pair had separated tongues (so-called double reeds), there were called yoke. Because of its pettishness they were kept in a small sheath (<i>glottokomeion</i>); the entire instrument was hold in a bag made from untanned skin (<i>synbene</i>). When playing the lips were pressed against the reed; the strong pressure of the inflated cheeks was absorbed by a kind of bridle, the <i>phorbeia</i>: leather bands which were tied from the mouth over the cheeks to the back of the head.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reeds were made from reed (from the lake Kopais) which was scraped thin. If the tongues eventually broke the auloi could be played with open hole. The pipe (<i>kalamos bombykias</i>), slightly conical carved, probably could be played by a little over blowing and so allowing some harmonics too. Probably the (oval) holes were played half occluded and so on the auloi all keys are obtainable. A 5th grip hole (for the thumb) possibly could be in use if the <i>phorbeia</i> was tight. Diodoros of Thebes introduced a special mechanism to open and close the holes (turnable rings?) which had hooks to allow turning. As material for the corpus besides reed, boxwood, lotos wood, laurel were used too bones of stag, ass, eagle and vulture; ivory was mediated by the Phoinicians. Boiotia, with its abundance of reed, became the home of the aulos players, mostly Thebians.</p><p><br /></p><p>The age of the auletik is seen deversely. Athen in its heroic age saw the auloi only at the barbarians. Plutarch regards the auloi for older than the kithara but this remains questionable because many terms used for the auloi were originating from playing the kithara. The peleponnesian myth calls Ardalos from Troizen, son of Hephaistos, the inventor of the auloi. The first historical aulet was Klonos of Tegea. The sole instrumental auletik spread quickly from Phrygia and was favoured as war music especially at the Lakedaimonians. At the Phrygians it served as keen. The elegy always was accompanied by auloi (armen. <i>elega</i> = pipe!). Plutarch assumed that the sound of the auloi contained <i>to theon</i>, the divine, and because of that evokes religious feelings. Aulodic means that the aulet, the aulos player, was accompanied by the aulode, a singer.</p><p><br /></p><p>Since Pythagoras the high-spirited panegyric sound of the auloi was antagonized. Because of its orgiastic effect the auloi were choosed as accompanist for the dithyrambos. Criticized was the instrument used at the wild satyr chorus because it crushed the melody. Among the aristocratic Athenians Alkibiades regarded the auloi as unseemly because it distorts the face of the player. That matches the myth were Athena threw away the auloi because of the same reason. It seems to be Euripides who invented the myth of the competition between Apollo and Marsyas and the following terrible punishment. Another matter of critizism was the then upcoming luxury clothing of the aulets. Aristoteles too disapproved and then in Socrates and his followers new strong opponents emerged. Aristoteles wanted to prohibit the education of auloi playing because of its uselessness for the cultivation of the mind. So until the late ancient time the playing of the kithara was obtained as more noble. Cicero assumed that the auloi player doesn't need so much dexterity as the kithara player. This devaluating estimation was practically adopted in modern times by Nietzsche who called the kithara playing '<i>Apollonian</i>', the auloi playing '<i>Dionysian</i>'.</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW On the coin the elevated grip holes are clearly seen.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I have a republican denar from L. Censorinus of the gens Marcia. Steve Minnoch has pointed out that Marsyas here was an allusion to the moneyer's gens Marcia too.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>2nd coin:</b></p><p>Roman republic, gens Marcia, L. Censorinus</p><p>AR - Denar, 3.68g, 24.17mm</p><p>Rome 82 BC.</p><p>obv. (without legende)</p><p>laureate head of Apollo, r.</p><p>rev. L. CENSOR</p><p>Marsyas advancing l., staring upwards, raising r. hand, carrying wine sack above</p><p>shoulder; behind him column with draped figure (Minerva?)</p><p>ref. Crawford 363/1d; Syd. 737; Kestner 3155; BMCR Rome 2657; Marcia 24</p><p>VF+/EF-</p><p>[ATTACH=full]894888[/ATTACH]</p><p>This statue of Marsyas possibly has stood on the Forum. The picture of this statue regularly appears on coins of Roman colonias, Alexandreia Troas, Berytos, Deultum, Dasmascus and so on. Ziegler has written: Marsyas is the symbol of the Roman colonias, which have got the <i>ius Italicum</i>. This has included that the concerned cities were freed of the oppressing pivotal taxes (<i>tributum capitis</i> and <i>tributum soli</i>). Numerous colonias with <i>ius Italicum</i> are listed in liber 50 of the Digestes (Greek <i>pandektes</i>). Unfortunately not all of them.Here is an example from Alexandreia Troas:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Coin #3</b>:</p><p>Troas, Alexandreia, Volusian, AD 251-253</p><p>AE 24, 6.79g, 24.26mm, 180°</p><p>obv. IMP C VIBI AFINI OLVSSIANV</p><p>Bust, draped and cuirassed, seen from behind, laureate, r.</p><p>rev. COL - AVG TROADE</p><p>Statue of Marsyas, nude, wearing boots, stg. l. on small base, holding wineskin over l. shoulder and raising r. hand in greeting attitude</p><p>ref. Bellinger -; SNG Copenhagen -; Sng von Aulock -</p><p>probably unpublished</p><p>very rare, about VF</p><p>[ATTACH=full]894889[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>History of Art:</b></p><p>I have attached the pic of an auloi player with <i>phorbeia</i> and dancer with <i>krotala</i>, detail from a kylix found at Vulci, Italy, signed by Epictetus, <i>c.</i> 520–510 BC; in the British Museum, London.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]894890[/ATTACH]</p><p>At least a pic of the famous Marsyas sculpture of the Capitoline Museum in Rome which I visited on our class trip in 1962. It shows the Roman copy of a lost hellenistic original from the 2nd century BC. This motive is outstanding because it is the only time in ancient art where a hanging figure was depicted, a motive which later in the Christian art became the leading theme in the figure of Christ hanging at the cross.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]894892[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Sources:</b></p><p>(1) Ovid, Metamorphoses</p><p>(2) Der kleine Pauly</p><p>(3) Anemone Zschätsch, Verwendung und Bedeutung griechischer Musikinstrumente in Mythos und Kult, Marie Leidorf 2002</p><p><br /></p><p>Best regards[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jochen1, post: 3373618, member: 103829"]Dear friends of ancient mythology! Marsyas is a famous tragic figure of the Greek mythology. Here I will tell his story. But first a coin. [B]1st coin:[/B] Phrygia, Apameia, pseudo-autonomous, c.3rd century AD AE 19, 3.29g, 225° obv. ΔH - MOC Bearded bust of Demos, draped, r. rev. AΠA - MEΩ - N (starting at 3 o'clock) Marsyas, nude, with waving nebris behind, tip-toed walking r., playing on double flute ref. SNG Copenhagen 200; SNG München 137; BMC 50 VF, sand patina [ATTACH=full]894887[/ATTACH] [B]Mythology:[/B] Marsyas was a Silen or Satyr, an attendant of Pan, who found the flute, which some time before was invented by Athena. But seeing her face in a mirror and how awful it looks when she played the flute and how all other goddesses were laughing about her, she throw it away with the curse that he who would raise the flute should suffer the worst fate. This Marsyas didn't know! He learned to play the flute better and better and when he felt at top of his art he coltish challenged Apollon for a competition. The winner should be allowed to do with the loser what he wants. Arbiters should be the Muses. But Apollo outsmarted Marsyas. When playing his Kithara he started to sing. This was not possible for Marsyas. So he lost the competition. And Apollon hung him on a tree and commanded a Skyth to skin Marsyas alive. It is said that by his blood - or the tears of the Muses and the other Satyrs - the river Marsyas has arised. (Ovid Met. VI, 382-400). Cultural-historical the meaning of Marsyas exhausted not in being a clumsy Satyr. He originally was a Phrygian river god or a spring daimon of the river Marsyas which flow in the valley Aulokrene near Kelainai. He was the protecting heroe of Kelainai and played an important part in the defense against the Galati (the Anatolic Gauls). Already early he came into the circle of Kybele. Only the Greek made him a Satyr. [B]Excursion: The double flute (Auloi)[/B] Aulos means 'playing the aulos' (with and without singing), the so-called auletik, but the corpus, the instrument, too. It is more correct to say [I]Auloi[/I] in plural because it were double pipes. They could be half looped, total looped, with holes at the side or holes at the underside. They could be tuned: at drinking binges they were used in unison, at marriage ceremonies in octave distance. Sometimes it could be seen that the two pipes have different lengths. It is discussed that one pipe plays the melody the other the accompanist. [B]And actually the aulos is not a flute but a reed- (tongue-) instrument, so rather a simple double oboe! [/B] The aulos has a tongue piece, an upper beginning part, the actual pipe and the grip holes. The aulos was called by Pindar and Euripides '[I]kalamos[/I]' or [I]'Libyan lotos'[/I]. The aulos pair had separated tongues (so-called double reeds), there were called yoke. Because of its pettishness they were kept in a small sheath ([I]glottokomeion[/I]); the entire instrument was hold in a bag made from untanned skin ([I]synbene[/I]). When playing the lips were pressed against the reed; the strong pressure of the inflated cheeks was absorbed by a kind of bridle, the [I]phorbeia[/I]: leather bands which were tied from the mouth over the cheeks to the back of the head. The reeds were made from reed (from the lake Kopais) which was scraped thin. If the tongues eventually broke the auloi could be played with open hole. The pipe ([I]kalamos bombykias[/I]), slightly conical carved, probably could be played by a little over blowing and so allowing some harmonics too. Probably the (oval) holes were played half occluded and so on the auloi all keys are obtainable. A 5th grip hole (for the thumb) possibly could be in use if the [I]phorbeia[/I] was tight. Diodoros of Thebes introduced a special mechanism to open and close the holes (turnable rings?) which had hooks to allow turning. As material for the corpus besides reed, boxwood, lotos wood, laurel were used too bones of stag, ass, eagle and vulture; ivory was mediated by the Phoinicians. Boiotia, with its abundance of reed, became the home of the aulos players, mostly Thebians. The age of the auletik is seen deversely. Athen in its heroic age saw the auloi only at the barbarians. Plutarch regards the auloi for older than the kithara but this remains questionable because many terms used for the auloi were originating from playing the kithara. The peleponnesian myth calls Ardalos from Troizen, son of Hephaistos, the inventor of the auloi. The first historical aulet was Klonos of Tegea. The sole instrumental auletik spread quickly from Phrygia and was favoured as war music especially at the Lakedaimonians. At the Phrygians it served as keen. The elegy always was accompanied by auloi (armen. [I]elega[/I] = pipe!). Plutarch assumed that the sound of the auloi contained [I]to theon[/I], the divine, and because of that evokes religious feelings. Aulodic means that the aulet, the aulos player, was accompanied by the aulode, a singer. Since Pythagoras the high-spirited panegyric sound of the auloi was antagonized. Because of its orgiastic effect the auloi were choosed as accompanist for the dithyrambos. Criticized was the instrument used at the wild satyr chorus because it crushed the melody. Among the aristocratic Athenians Alkibiades regarded the auloi as unseemly because it distorts the face of the player. That matches the myth were Athena threw away the auloi because of the same reason. It seems to be Euripides who invented the myth of the competition between Apollo and Marsyas and the following terrible punishment. Another matter of critizism was the then upcoming luxury clothing of the aulets. Aristoteles too disapproved and then in Socrates and his followers new strong opponents emerged. Aristoteles wanted to prohibit the education of auloi playing because of its uselessness for the cultivation of the mind. So until the late ancient time the playing of the kithara was obtained as more noble. Cicero assumed that the auloi player doesn't need so much dexterity as the kithara player. This devaluating estimation was practically adopted in modern times by Nietzsche who called the kithara playing '[I]Apollonian[/I]', the auloi playing '[I]Dionysian[/I]'. BTW On the coin the elevated grip holes are clearly seen. Now I have a republican denar from L. Censorinus of the gens Marcia. Steve Minnoch has pointed out that Marsyas here was an allusion to the moneyer's gens Marcia too. [B]2nd coin:[/B] Roman republic, gens Marcia, L. Censorinus AR - Denar, 3.68g, 24.17mm Rome 82 BC. obv. (without legende) laureate head of Apollo, r. rev. L. CENSOR Marsyas advancing l., staring upwards, raising r. hand, carrying wine sack above shoulder; behind him column with draped figure (Minerva?) ref. Crawford 363/1d; Syd. 737; Kestner 3155; BMCR Rome 2657; Marcia 24 VF+/EF- [ATTACH=full]894888[/ATTACH] This statue of Marsyas possibly has stood on the Forum. The picture of this statue regularly appears on coins of Roman colonias, Alexandreia Troas, Berytos, Deultum, Dasmascus and so on. Ziegler has written: Marsyas is the symbol of the Roman colonias, which have got the [I]ius Italicum[/I]. This has included that the concerned cities were freed of the oppressing pivotal taxes ([I]tributum capitis[/I] and [I]tributum soli[/I]). Numerous colonias with [I]ius Italicum[/I] are listed in liber 50 of the Digestes (Greek [I]pandektes[/I]). Unfortunately not all of them.Here is an example from Alexandreia Troas: [B]Coin #3[/B]: Troas, Alexandreia, Volusian, AD 251-253 AE 24, 6.79g, 24.26mm, 180° obv. IMP C VIBI AFINI OLVSSIANV Bust, draped and cuirassed, seen from behind, laureate, r. rev. COL - AVG TROADE Statue of Marsyas, nude, wearing boots, stg. l. on small base, holding wineskin over l. shoulder and raising r. hand in greeting attitude ref. Bellinger -; SNG Copenhagen -; Sng von Aulock - probably unpublished very rare, about VF [ATTACH=full]894889[/ATTACH] [B]History of Art:[/B] I have attached the pic of an auloi player with [I]phorbeia[/I] and dancer with [I]krotala[/I], detail from a kylix found at Vulci, Italy, signed by Epictetus, [I]c.[/I] 520–510 BC; in the British Museum, London. [ATTACH=full]894890[/ATTACH] At least a pic of the famous Marsyas sculpture of the Capitoline Museum in Rome which I visited on our class trip in 1962. It shows the Roman copy of a lost hellenistic original from the 2nd century BC. This motive is outstanding because it is the only time in ancient art where a hanging figure was depicted, a motive which later in the Christian art became the leading theme in the figure of Christ hanging at the cross. [ATTACH=full]894892[/ATTACH] [B]Sources:[/B] (1) Ovid, Metamorphoses (2) Der kleine Pauly (3) Anemone Zschätsch, Verwendung und Bedeutung griechischer Musikinstrumente in Mythos und Kult, Marie Leidorf 2002 Best regards[/QUOTE]
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