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<p>[QUOTE="Jochen1, post: 3266397, member: 103829"]Dear PeteB!</p><p><br /></p><p>Nice coins. Especially the rev. of Philip I&Otacilia is wonderful, with clear details. This type is very rare. I have only a corroded one. But here is the same type for Philipp II:</p><p><br /></p><p>Moesia inferior, Markianopolis, 44. Philip II & Serapis, Caesar AD 244-247</p><p>AE 27, 13.94g, 26.96mm, 30°</p><p>struck under governor Prastina Messalinus</p><p>obv. M I[OVLIOC] FILIPPOC KAI / CAR AVG</p><p>Confronted busts of Philip II, draped and cuirassed, seen from behind, bare-headed, r., and Serapis, draped and wearing kalathos, l.</p><p>rev. VP PRACT MECCALLEI[NOV MARK]IANOPOLEITWN (WN ligate)</p><p>Hermes, nude, stg. crooked l., looking facing, r. foot set on ram's head, l. arm with chlamys resting on r. knee; between his feet turtle on ground, behind him tree stump with kerykeion before</p><p>in r. field E (for pentassarion)</p><p>ref. a) AMNG I/1, 1209, pl.XVI, 25, rev. same die (2 ex., Philippopel, Sophia Tacchella revue num. 1893, 73, 23) </p><p>b) Varbanov (engl.) 2107</p><p>c) Hristova/Jekov (2014) No. 6.44.10.3 </p><p>rare, about VF, slightly rough</p><p>Pedigree:</p><p>ex coll J.P.Righetti, No.10008</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]860502[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>About the use of AVG in the younger Philip compare Mommsen 'Römisches Staatsrecht 2, 1164, note 5. (Pick)</p><p><br /></p><p>The rev. shows the statue of the Sandal Binder of Lysipp. Sometimes called 'Jason' or 'Cincinnatus' in error. It was found in <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=412&pos=0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=412&pos=0" rel="nofollow">Hadrian</a>'s Villa at Tivoli in 1769. Now it is in the Ny Carlsberg Glyptothek in Copenhagen. It is a <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=55&pos=0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=55&pos=0" rel="nofollow"><span style="color: #0066cc">Roman</span></a> version of a Greek bronze original of the 3rd century BC, probably by Lysipp. The correct interpretation as Hermes based on the description in the Ekphrasis of Christodoros of Koptos. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]860505[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Recently von Mosch has published a work where he could explain that this statue shows Hermes rather loosening his sandals than fastening them. <a href="https://www.gmcoinart.de/upload/JNG_63_von_Mosch_1121.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.gmcoinart.de/upload/JNG_63_von_Mosch_1121.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.gmcoinart.de/upload/JNG_63_von_Mosch_1121.pdf</a> (German)</p><p> </p><p>Best regards[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jochen1, post: 3266397, member: 103829"]Dear PeteB! Nice coins. Especially the rev. of Philip I&Otacilia is wonderful, with clear details. This type is very rare. I have only a corroded one. But here is the same type for Philipp II: Moesia inferior, Markianopolis, 44. Philip II & Serapis, Caesar AD 244-247 AE 27, 13.94g, 26.96mm, 30° struck under governor Prastina Messalinus obv. M I[OVLIOC] FILIPPOC KAI / CAR AVG Confronted busts of Philip II, draped and cuirassed, seen from behind, bare-headed, r., and Serapis, draped and wearing kalathos, l. rev. VP PRACT MECCALLEI[NOV MARK]IANOPOLEITWN (WN ligate) Hermes, nude, stg. crooked l., looking facing, r. foot set on ram's head, l. arm with chlamys resting on r. knee; between his feet turtle on ground, behind him tree stump with kerykeion before in r. field E (for pentassarion) ref. a) AMNG I/1, 1209, pl.XVI, 25, rev. same die (2 ex., Philippopel, Sophia Tacchella revue num. 1893, 73, 23) b) Varbanov (engl.) 2107 c) Hristova/Jekov (2014) No. 6.44.10.3 rare, about VF, slightly rough Pedigree: ex coll J.P.Righetti, No.10008 [ATTACH=full]860502[/ATTACH] About the use of AVG in the younger Philip compare Mommsen 'Römisches Staatsrecht 2, 1164, note 5. (Pick) The rev. shows the statue of the Sandal Binder of Lysipp. Sometimes called 'Jason' or 'Cincinnatus' in error. It was found in [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=412&pos=0']Hadrian[/URL]'s Villa at Tivoli in 1769. Now it is in the Ny Carlsberg Glyptothek in Copenhagen. It is a [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=55&pos=0'][COLOR=#0066cc]Roman[/COLOR][/URL] version of a Greek bronze original of the 3rd century BC, probably by Lysipp. The correct interpretation as Hermes based on the description in the Ekphrasis of Christodoros of Koptos. [ATTACH=full]860505[/ATTACH] Recently von Mosch has published a work where he could explain that this statue shows Hermes rather loosening his sandals than fastening them. [url]https://www.gmcoinart.de/upload/JNG_63_von_Mosch_1121.pdf[/url] (German) Best regards[/QUOTE]
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