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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2062323, member: 112&quot;]Dave there&#039;s a huge difference between hating something, and telling the truth about it. That&#039;s what I do, I tell the truth. Not that others don&#039;t tell the truth about them as well, they do for the most part. I just make sure that those who are reading this forum, and don&#039;t already know, find out the whole truth instead of just part of it.</p><p><br /></p><p>What do I like about them ? When they first started and for many years they stabilized the market and helped make coins more liquid. And without a doubt they still do make coins more liquid. For the most part, they always have, and still do, do a great job of authenticating coins. Something that most people don&#039;t have a prayer of doing for themselves.</p><p><br /></p><p>Are there things I don&#039;t like about them ? You bet there are. I don&#039;t like that they keep changing their grading standards. I don&#039;t like that they have little to no consistency when it comes treating all problem coins the same. I don&#039;t like that they often have inconsistency in grading, even by their own standards. And I especially don&#039;t like the fact that PCGS does not even follow their own written and published grading standards. And I don&#039;t like that NGC doesn&#039;t even have any written any written and published grading standards.</p><p><br /></p><p>But just because there are things I don&#039;t like about them, that does not mean I hate them. That most definitely does not mean that I wish they would just go away. Far from it, that would be terrible for the hobby.</p><p><br /></p><p>The TPGs are just like everything else in life Dave, they can be great, but there does need to be, shall we say, consumer warnings about them too. They cannot just be blindly trusted in other words.</p><p><br /></p><p>And no Dave, I am not the only one who thinks that way. I am not even among a small group who think that way, it&#039;s a pretty dang big group and it&#039;s certainly nothing new ! Now I don&#039;t know who coined the phrase, but that is what the phrase - buy the coin and not the slab - means. That you cannot just blindly trust the TPGs. And that phrase has been repeated and stated by some of the biggest, most trusted, most respected names in numismatics. And it has been for many years.</p><p><br /></p><p>What&#039;s more, in recent years, the distrust in the TPGs has become so widespread that it has allowed the success of a company that does nothing but provide their opinion regarding the grades assigned by the TPGs. And yes I&#039;m obviously talking about CAC.</p><p><br /></p><p>You see Dave, there&#039;s a lot of people like me out there. People who don&#039;t like some of the things the TPGs do. But that doesn&#039;t mean they hate them either.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now you do me a favor. Tell me why it bothers you so dang much when I say something, as you call it, negative about them ? I don&#039;t say one thing that isn&#039;t true. And if I am presenting my own opinion then I say it is my opinion. But much, if not most, of what I say about them is factual, and not an opinion at all.</p><p><br /></p><p>So tell me, why does that bother you ?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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