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<p>[QUOTE="Clutchy, post: 2059888, member: 45040"]As most of you know, I'm very new to coins and grading. Like most in the hobby, I want to learn how to grade like the best of them. I do not want to rely on what the label says on the holder. And with a few bumps in the road ironed out from when I started, the process is becoming more clearer to me every time I look at a coin. And my biggest issue was I was looking at coins with blinders on. Descriptions and pictures are a great tool in your grading toolbox, but even they can be misleading and/or not showing the whole picture. Every coin is different and no two coins will look identical, within a grade. It wasn't until certain written descriptions really sunk in, and the biggest one for me was this.....</p><p><br /></p><p>MS70: A flawless coin AS IT was minted.</p><p><br /></p><p>So to me, a coin, whether it was struck with early or late state dies, well or weakly struck, has a chance at being a MS70, if all other aspects of the minting process, and there after are uphold for that grade. I do not feel a die set that shows signs of wear, or if the dies were not set up in the coining press properly, would be considered flaws. It's part of the minting process "issues". Some might accept coins with those issues, but most will not, but I don't feel they have anything to do with a coins grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>The good part of the coin community would say that a Lincoln wheat cent, would need full seperation lines on the wheats, to at least grade VF20. Ive seen uncirculated cents with no seperation lines because of wear or grease, so does that mean that coin can not grade higher that a F15? I don't think so. It might not be a good representative of a uncirculated coin, but it's still uncirculated by the grading description MS60.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Clutchy, post: 2059888, member: 45040"]As most of you know, I'm very new to coins and grading. Like most in the hobby, I want to learn how to grade like the best of them. I do not want to rely on what the label says on the holder. And with a few bumps in the road ironed out from when I started, the process is becoming more clearer to me every time I look at a coin. And my biggest issue was I was looking at coins with blinders on. Descriptions and pictures are a great tool in your grading toolbox, but even they can be misleading and/or not showing the whole picture. Every coin is different and no two coins will look identical, within a grade. It wasn't until certain written descriptions really sunk in, and the biggest one for me was this..... MS70: A flawless coin AS IT was minted. So to me, a coin, whether it was struck with early or late state dies, well or weakly struck, has a chance at being a MS70, if all other aspects of the minting process, and there after are uphold for that grade. I do not feel a die set that shows signs of wear, or if the dies were not set up in the coining press properly, would be considered flaws. It's part of the minting process "issues". Some might accept coins with those issues, but most will not, but I don't feel they have anything to do with a coins grade. The good part of the coin community would say that a Lincoln wheat cent, would need full seperation lines on the wheats, to at least grade VF20. Ive seen uncirculated cents with no seperation lines because of wear or grease, so does that mean that coin can not grade higher that a F15? I don't think so. It might not be a good representative of a uncirculated coin, but it's still uncirculated by the grading description MS60.[/QUOTE]
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