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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2979485, member: 19463"]As they should be! I find ancient imitations including plated coins (also called fourree and subaerati but all the same thing) quite interesting and collectable BUT they should sell for a fraction of the price of a regular, solid coin. How much less depends on a few things but mostly IMHO just how ugly the coin is. There are plated coins that have almost no core exposed or even those betrayed as fourree by low weight having no core showing at all. These may be worth a quarter of the solid coin in the same grade. Some core exposure that does not destroy the appearance of the coin or even add interest with an interesting pattern starts there and goes down to the point that the ugly piece of trash is worthless unless it is an extremely rare coin that you might be lucky to own as a fourree and have no chance of affording in silver. Ugly fourrees of EID MAR denarii sell well. They should not bring the $10-100k of solid ones but there are many people who would like one.</p><p><br /></p><p>A few samples of fourrees:</p><p>Sextus Pompey with almost no core so in the high price group (25% or so???)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]732849[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Julius Caesar and Octavian with Agrippa reverse - ugly but rare to the point I am happy to have it</p><p>[ATTACH=full]732853[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Gold over bronze fourrees are common and priced by appearance but scarce gold over silver ones should show the silver so you know what they are. This one would be prettier if the faces were not worn flat but I enjoy seeing the silver and was willing to pay the $35 the dealer was asking for the ugly thing.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]732854[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The copper core one below is much prettier due to the pattern of the core on only the high points so I paid $45 but I consider the two about equal. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]732855[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>There are plated copper/iron coins but they are rare. I once saw one (that was not for sale) which was a hollow shell about 3/4 complete with the iron rusted away. It would require very careful handling. I would love to have that one. </p><p><br /></p><p>I really do not recommend buying plated coins when what you wanted was a solid one. However, if you agree with me (and Valentinian, I believe) that they are interesting in their own right, there is nothing wrong with collecting them for what they are.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2979485, member: 19463"]As they should be! I find ancient imitations including plated coins (also called fourree and subaerati but all the same thing) quite interesting and collectable BUT they should sell for a fraction of the price of a regular, solid coin. How much less depends on a few things but mostly IMHO just how ugly the coin is. There are plated coins that have almost no core exposed or even those betrayed as fourree by low weight having no core showing at all. These may be worth a quarter of the solid coin in the same grade. Some core exposure that does not destroy the appearance of the coin or even add interest with an interesting pattern starts there and goes down to the point that the ugly piece of trash is worthless unless it is an extremely rare coin that you might be lucky to own as a fourree and have no chance of affording in silver. Ugly fourrees of EID MAR denarii sell well. They should not bring the $10-100k of solid ones but there are many people who would like one. A few samples of fourrees: Sextus Pompey with almost no core so in the high price group (25% or so???) [ATTACH=full]732849[/ATTACH] Julius Caesar and Octavian with Agrippa reverse - ugly but rare to the point I am happy to have it [ATTACH=full]732853[/ATTACH] Gold over bronze fourrees are common and priced by appearance but scarce gold over silver ones should show the silver so you know what they are. This one would be prettier if the faces were not worn flat but I enjoy seeing the silver and was willing to pay the $35 the dealer was asking for the ugly thing. [ATTACH=full]732854[/ATTACH] The copper core one below is much prettier due to the pattern of the core on only the high points so I paid $45 but I consider the two about equal. [ATTACH=full]732855[/ATTACH] There are plated copper/iron coins but they are rare. I once saw one (that was not for sale) which was a hollow shell about 3/4 complete with the iron rusted away. It would require very careful handling. I would love to have that one. I really do not recommend buying plated coins when what you wanted was a solid one. However, if you agree with me (and Valentinian, I believe) that they are interesting in their own right, there is nothing wrong with collecting them for what they are.[/QUOTE]
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