Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
Margins on High End Coins ?
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Tom B, post: 1976731, member: 11854"]I am a full-time dealer (read: I do this for a living) and I would like to address both the points brought up in the initial post, but also points brought up in the quoted post. I will also add that this thread seems to be a discussion of at least three different topics and at least one of them appears to be a carryover from another conversation, which can make all of this tough to follow for others.</p><p><br /></p><p>The statements in the quoted post (above) will be touched upon first. In my opinion, a retail buyer has little, if any, right to be able to claim the ability to pay the same for a coin as another dealer might pay. The reasons for this include that most dealers do many transactions with one another over the course of quite a few years and they build a trusting relationship with one another; additionally, dealers invest significant time and effort to make contacts with each other and to learn where to move material that might be difficult to sell on a retail basis from their inventory; also, dealers are generally willing to help one another out in terms of leads, buying stale inventory and short-term loans; and lastly, retail clients typically have not "earned" the right to buy at wholesale levels. If a retail client cannot handle this then I have to wonder if they go to their grocery store and refuse to pay a mark up for food or if they go to their physician and refuse to pay more than what basic insurance might cover-it just makes no sense.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the original post, well, it depends. It depends upon if the coin is in a series that is hot (liquid), if the coin is a key date that always has a strong following, if it has some amazing individual quality that sets it apart from other otherwise similar pieces (1953-S Franklin half dollars with FBL, coins with amazing natural toning, etc...), the cash flow of the dealer and the relationship of the dealer with the client in question. I've sold three coins fairly recently that fall within the low end of the original range of prices. One was sold wholesale and two were sold as retail transactions. One coin <i>cost me</i> $1,000 and I sold it for $950 because it became stale in my inventory, one coin was a key date that cost me $1,200 and I sold it very quickly for $1,350 while the third was also a key date that cost me $2,200 and I sold it for $2,400, also very quickly. The first two listed were retail transactions and the last was a wholesale transaction. I could have likely make more on the last transaction, but I have a good relationship with the buyer and he needed the coin for his want list clients, too, so I did him a favor.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Tom B, post: 1976731, member: 11854"]I am a full-time dealer (read: I do this for a living) and I would like to address both the points brought up in the initial post, but also points brought up in the quoted post. I will also add that this thread seems to be a discussion of at least three different topics and at least one of them appears to be a carryover from another conversation, which can make all of this tough to follow for others. The statements in the quoted post (above) will be touched upon first. In my opinion, a retail buyer has little, if any, right to be able to claim the ability to pay the same for a coin as another dealer might pay. The reasons for this include that most dealers do many transactions with one another over the course of quite a few years and they build a trusting relationship with one another; additionally, dealers invest significant time and effort to make contacts with each other and to learn where to move material that might be difficult to sell on a retail basis from their inventory; also, dealers are generally willing to help one another out in terms of leads, buying stale inventory and short-term loans; and lastly, retail clients typically have not "earned" the right to buy at wholesale levels. If a retail client cannot handle this then I have to wonder if they go to their grocery store and refuse to pay a mark up for food or if they go to their physician and refuse to pay more than what basic insurance might cover-it just makes no sense. As for the original post, well, it depends. It depends upon if the coin is in a series that is hot (liquid), if the coin is a key date that always has a strong following, if it has some amazing individual quality that sets it apart from other otherwise similar pieces (1953-S Franklin half dollars with FBL, coins with amazing natural toning, etc...), the cash flow of the dealer and the relationship of the dealer with the client in question. I've sold three coins fairly recently that fall within the low end of the original range of prices. One was sold wholesale and two were sold as retail transactions. One coin [I]cost me[/I] $1,000 and I sold it for $950 because it became stale in my inventory, one coin was a key date that cost me $1,200 and I sold it very quickly for $1,350 while the third was also a key date that cost me $2,200 and I sold it for $2,400, also very quickly. The first two listed were retail transactions and the last was a wholesale transaction. I could have likely make more on the last transaction, but I have a good relationship with the buyer and he needed the coin for his want list clients, too, so I did him a favor.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
Margins on High End Coins ?
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...