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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 4670147, member: 19463&quot;]The concept of separating heads from busts was established on another period when it was more obvious which was which.&nbsp; These have that entry noting drapery on far shoulder which, on the coins, looks like a head with a scrap of cloth behind the neck.&nbsp; Different people will dispute whether a drape of any degree makes a head into a bust or not.&nbsp; The guys who cut these dies did not know they were expected to make their variations follow rules not then invented.&nbsp; There are some issues where draped and cuirassed portraits really stand out as separate from either alone and others where we have to look hard and decide if there is something there to see.&nbsp; Roman Collector posted clear explanations of the differences.&nbsp; Were it only true that all the coins were as clear as those descriptions!</p><p><br /></p><p>A bust of Aurelian with not doubt:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1151250[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Trajan with drapery on far shoulder leaves mor to interpretation and there som much less extensive than this!.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1151251[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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