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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;areich, post: 1447668, member: 37479&quot;]Hello</p><p><br /></p><p>It is overstating the influence that the peace of Munster was the single event that prevented Europe from being fragmentary and violent like the middle East today.&nbsp; Actually, one can argue that Europe at&nbsp; that period was very much like the Middle East at that time.&nbsp; for example, you had the iconoclast violence in 1570.&nbsp; And it would further stretch that view of reality when one remembers that just a few decades later the Dutch republic was swept away by the Napoleonic wars and French domination. </p><p><br /></p><p>However, I think that one can argue that the Dutch experiment in tolerance and secularization of the public sphere largely showed the blueprint for the future, and&nbsp; its philosophies and arts transforms Europe and North America, even if it took another bloody century or more to sort it all out.</p><p><br /></p><p>Amanda[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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