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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Alegandron, post: 2471060, member: 51347&quot;]Agreed.&nbsp; But Marius was a &quot;New Man&quot;, who fought to gain Senatorial Rank... but, yeah, that is correct.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reason for my thought, and not to be cruel for the times:&nbsp; The Roman Republic Legions WON an Empire... The Late Empire Legions LOST an Empire.</p><p><br /></p><p>And, NO, I am NOT opening a debate or shooting across any bow.&nbsp; Just an observation.&nbsp; I know folks enjoy the Late Empire time period as you do.&nbsp; I just look at the whole historical picture of the Roman Entity (Village, City, Republic, Empire, transferring power to Constantinople, etc.) and find the slow waning and finally the light extinguished from an Awesome Entity (The Western portion) is so sad.&nbsp; From the traditional founding of Rome in 753 BCE to the last of the Roman direct legacy with Constantinople falling in 1453 CE... over 2000 years of Roman Empire is fascinating.&nbsp; Yup, China was maybe 3000 years, but was many States. India was a long rich, history. Egypt was THOUSANDS of years, but Rome seemed to have captured a pinnacle for Human achievement whose legacy strongly influences many peoples worldwide even today.&nbsp; Just cool.</p><p><br /></p><p>In honor of the 4 major Human Entities that I mentioned:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]519806[/ATTACH]</p><p>Roman Republic</p><p>AR Didrachm 280-275 BCE</p><p>Obv: Mars</p><p>Rev: Horse Head ROMANO</p><p>FIRST Silver coin of the Roman Republic</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]519807[/ATTACH]</p><p>China</p><p>Qin Dynasty 220-180 BC</p><p>AE Zhu Ban Liang</p><p>Blank</p><p>H7-7</p><p>Emperor Qin united China, with the name China derived from his name</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]519812[/ATTACH] </p><p>India, Shakya Janapada </p><p>AR 5-Shana 6th-5th C BCE </p><p>Probably struck at the time Buddha was the Prince of Shakya</p><p>Ref-Hiramo-I-8-29 </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]519809[/ATTACH]</p><p>Egypt</p><p>Steatite SCARAB</p><p>Pharoah Thuthmosis III</p><p>ca 1504-1450 BCE</p><p>ex CNG</p><p>ex David Hendin[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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