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<p>[QUOTE="Magnus Maximus, post: 2470068, member: 73473"]<font size="4">After the deaths of Julian and Jovian the Roman Empire looked as if it may be ripped apart from civil war or worse; the reputation of the military was at an almost all time low and the Imperial bureaucracy was in disarray. Fortunately the battered Legions in the east had elected a more than capable man to the purple: Valentinian I.</font></p><p><font size="4">Fortunately we have Valentinian's speech he gave to the troops at the time of his election:<b>"A few minutes since it was in your power, fellow-soldiers, to have left me in the obscurity of a private station. Judging, from the testimony of my past life, that I deserved to reign, you have placed me on the throne. It is now my duty to consult the safety and interest of the republic. The weight of the universe is undoubtedly too great for the hands of a feeble mortal. I am conscious of the limits of my abilities, and the uncertainty of my life; and far from declining, I am anxious to solicit, the assistance of a worthy colleague. But, where discord may be fatal, the choice of a faithful friend requires mature and serious deliberation. That deliberation shall be my care. Let your conduct be dutiful and consistent. Retire to your quarters; refresh your minds and bodies; and expect the accustomed donative on the accession of a new emperor."</b></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="4">Valentinian assured the men of the legions that he was one of them and that the military would be the main focus of his reign. Now to us living in modern times this may sound no different than to a military dictatorship (i.e Egypt or the USSR) but at this period in Roman history the military was absolutely vital to maintaining the Empire, without it the light of Rome would burn out. </font></p><p><font size="4">Valentinian was going to prioritize the military but he wasn't going to spoil them rotten like Septimius Severus or Caracalla had, he was going to treat them harshly but fairly. </font></p><p><font size="4">The perfect example of this is when Valentinian lost a battle to some germans in 365, when he returned to his camp he found out that the Batavi Senories were the first to flee. Valentinian angrily stated that he would sell them into slavery and take their weapons from them. It was reported that the Batavi cried like women and begged Valentinian for another chance, he gave it to them and they charged into the forests and absolved themselves of their cowardice in the blood of the germans. </font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">Most Emperors after Constantine did not personally lead troops into battle the only exceptions were Julian II, Magnus Maximus, Theodosius I, and of course Valentinian I.</font></p><p><font size="4">At the Battle of Solicinium in 368 CE, Valentinian personally led a contingent of men up a hill the alemanni were holding. The barbarians unexpectedly counter attacked and Valentinian held his ground and personally engaged in hand to hand combat with them. He only retreated after the barbarians had killed his personal attendant and had knocked his helmet off, the Romans would ultimately win the battle with many dead barbarians strewn about the forrest.</font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">A description of Valentinian I by the great late Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus states that "he was of a violent and brutal temper, and not only uncultivated himself, but hostile to cultivated persons." This is probably true as most other contemporaries describe him as an abrasive boor, though Valentinian probably didn't give a damn about what some old crusty Senators thought. Surprisingly Valentinian founded hospitals and schools in Rome and Constantinople; there is something touching when a man whose main job is killing shows mercy and kindness. In conclusion, he was the perfect man to pull the Roman Empire and Comitatenses back together after the disasters of 363 and 364.</font></p><p><font size="4">Hats off to Valentinian The Great!</font></p><p><font size="4">It only took three damn years to find an unclipped Siliqua of Valentinian I that didn't break the bank. The fact that it is from Rome makes it all the more sweeter as Valentinian vacillated between Rome and Mediolanum in the early part of his reign. </font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">[ATTACH=full]519334[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="4">ANCIENT ROME: Valentinian I (364-375 CE) Ar Siliqua (18mm, 2.13g) of Rome, 1st Officina; SR-4099, RSC-81d. Obv: diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right; Rev: Valentinian seated left holding sceptre and Victory. Very Fine. Circa 365-67 CE</font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">The shield pattern of the Batavi Senories </font></p><p><font size="4">[ATTACH=full]519335[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="4">An artists representation of a unit of Comitatenses</font></p><p><font size="4">[ATTACH=full]519336[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">A possible statue of Valentinian I, other candidates are Valens and Theodosius II. I like to think it's Valentinian due to the stern facial features.</font></p><p><font size="4">[ATTACH=full]519337[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="4">Source:</font></p><p>[ATTACH=full]519338[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Magnus Maximus, post: 2470068, member: 73473"][SIZE=4]After the deaths of Julian and Jovian the Roman Empire looked as if it may be ripped apart from civil war or worse; the reputation of the military was at an almost all time low and the Imperial bureaucracy was in disarray. Fortunately the battered Legions in the east had elected a more than capable man to the purple: Valentinian I. Fortunately we have Valentinian's speech he gave to the troops at the time of his election:[B]"A few minutes since it was in your power, fellow-soldiers, to have left me in the obscurity of a private station. Judging, from the testimony of my past life, that I deserved to reign, you have placed me on the throne. It is now my duty to consult the safety and interest of the republic. The weight of the universe is undoubtedly too great for the hands of a feeble mortal. I am conscious of the limits of my abilities, and the uncertainty of my life; and far from declining, I am anxious to solicit, the assistance of a worthy colleague. But, where discord may be fatal, the choice of a faithful friend requires mature and serious deliberation. That deliberation shall be my care. Let your conduct be dutiful and consistent. Retire to your quarters; refresh your minds and bodies; and expect the accustomed donative on the accession of a new emperor."[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4]Valentinian assured the men of the legions that he was one of them and that the military would be the main focus of his reign. Now to us living in modern times this may sound no different than to a military dictatorship (i.e Egypt or the USSR) but at this period in Roman history the military was absolutely vital to maintaining the Empire, without it the light of Rome would burn out. Valentinian was going to prioritize the military but he wasn't going to spoil them rotten like Septimius Severus or Caracalla had, he was going to treat them harshly but fairly. The perfect example of this is when Valentinian lost a battle to some germans in 365, when he returned to his camp he found out that the Batavi Senories were the first to flee. Valentinian angrily stated that he would sell them into slavery and take their weapons from them. It was reported that the Batavi cried like women and begged Valentinian for another chance, he gave it to them and they charged into the forests and absolved themselves of their cowardice in the blood of the germans. Most Emperors after Constantine did not personally lead troops into battle the only exceptions were Julian II, Magnus Maximus, Theodosius I, and of course Valentinian I. At the Battle of Solicinium in 368 CE, Valentinian personally led a contingent of men up a hill the alemanni were holding. The barbarians unexpectedly counter attacked and Valentinian held his ground and personally engaged in hand to hand combat with them. He only retreated after the barbarians had killed his personal attendant and had knocked his helmet off, the Romans would ultimately win the battle with many dead barbarians strewn about the forrest. A description of Valentinian I by the great late Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus states that "he was of a violent and brutal temper, and not only uncultivated himself, but hostile to cultivated persons." This is probably true as most other contemporaries describe him as an abrasive boor, though Valentinian probably didn't give a damn about what some old crusty Senators thought. Surprisingly Valentinian founded hospitals and schools in Rome and Constantinople; there is something touching when a man whose main job is killing shows mercy and kindness. In conclusion, he was the perfect man to pull the Roman Empire and Comitatenses back together after the disasters of 363 and 364. Hats off to Valentinian The Great! It only took three damn years to find an unclipped Siliqua of Valentinian I that didn't break the bank. The fact that it is from Rome makes it all the more sweeter as Valentinian vacillated between Rome and Mediolanum in the early part of his reign. [ATTACH=full]519334[/ATTACH] ANCIENT ROME: Valentinian I (364-375 CE) Ar Siliqua (18mm, 2.13g) of Rome, 1st Officina; SR-4099, RSC-81d. Obv: diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right; Rev: Valentinian seated left holding sceptre and Victory. Very Fine. Circa 365-67 CE The shield pattern of the Batavi Senories [ATTACH=full]519335[/ATTACH] An artists representation of a unit of Comitatenses [ATTACH=full]519336[/ATTACH] A possible statue of Valentinian I, other candidates are Valens and Theodosius II. I like to think it's Valentinian due to the stern facial features. [ATTACH=full]519337[/ATTACH] Source:[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]519338[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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