Major Worn Kennedy Clad Halves

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  1. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    Found these roll-searching over the past year. Besides intentional or circulation damage, any other thoughts or opinions on these?

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  3. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Pocket pieces.
     
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Very well could be, you don't think one or more were helped along the way?
     
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  5. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Maybe. I know people do strange things, but I prefer not to think about them.
     
  6. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    Well, the bottom one is a 1988. Let's assume they are all 1971 clad's. That's 49 years. What's the avg. duration of creating one of these in your pocket?.. I have no idea!

    My motivation for posting these and asking the question: If submitted, would they come back in a body bag, damaged, detailed?....or straight graded? I can barely make out a date on the first one. I "think" it's a 1984-D. If it's a genuine pocket piece, would a P01 be possible?
     
  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I imagine it is possible, I don't know that the few with the heavy scratches would pass.
     
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  8. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Dryer coins is my thoughts.
     
  9. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    True. Detailed/damaged kills it!
     
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  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm pretty sure that any Kennedy worn that heavily has had some help.

    This sent me off looking for other examples. I found one NGC graded PO-01.

    There was a user here in 2013-2014, Steve456, who posted a 1964 in an ANACS PO1 slab. I can no longer tag him, so I guess he's gone. :( (Here's a thread on another forum, apparently by the same guy, with pictures of a PCGS PO01 1976.)

    Here's a set of FR02 Kennedys on eBay, with 1964, 1964-D, 1966, 1967, 2 1968-D, and 1969-D examples.

    I'd love to have a 2014 gold Kennedy in PO01 (or even F12), but so far I haven't even had the nerve to turn one into a pocket piece. (I was half-seriously looking for damaged examples near melt at one point to run the experiment, but I missed my chance at the only one I ever saw, and I don't think I could bring myself to put the first wear or damage on one.)
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    What did you do to them @Islander80-83? Put them in a rich tumbler? Lol
     
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  12. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I am curious. Do you conclude this because you have personally pulled a Kennedy half dollar from inside a dryer drum and it looked like this? Or because you have personally carried a Kennedy half in your pocket for 40 years and it looks nothing like this?

    No I'm not picking on you. I just get tired of reading this conclusion on every worn coin when there has never been any actual proof that this ever happens.
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Something to notice on all the examples you provided the rims are square and the surfaces have been worn smooth. There is an even look to all of them.
    @Islander80-83 I take back the thought that any of your half's would straight grade.
    All the rims seem to have problems. And the coins don't look evenly worn.
     
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  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Maybe I’m totally off base, but I don’t see halves circulating enough through the years to cause all of that.
     
  15. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    I found then roll-searching.
     
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  16. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    Brilliant! Thanks for that!
     
  17. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    You're singing my song!
     
  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I second that!
     
  19. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    I'm with you. I'm just trying to figure out some type of conclusive how, where, when or why.
     
  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Just teasing you! Half Dollars are not circulation coins. For the most part they are made for circulation but for that much wear to occur they had to have help. Look at Quarters from 1965. Basically the same composition but not that much wear and Quarters are heavily circulated as compared to a half.
     
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  21. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    That was my thought as well. Could something like these actually come from the mint? Test pieces? Grease?
     
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