Major NGC Gaffe

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  1. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    Don't mind me, I'm just here watching.
     
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  3. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Answer:

    The planchet is not a 1943 steel planchet; it is a zinc cent planchet missing the copper plating. A major blunder that could cost someone about $140.

    Steel planchets and Zinc cent planchets are very close in weight. (2.7 vs. 2.5 grams); the weight difference is within tolerance levels. (The copper plating is so thin on zinc cents that on most digital scales the difference won't even register.)

    I understand the weight is similar, but there is a distinguishable color difference. Also, I'm not sure if they always do a check on metallic content, but even so they should have got it right on this.

    I got this very, very cheap and I am keeping it as is as an educational piece; it's a $10 planchet with a label for a $150 error. Oops!!!

    ~Joe Cronin
     
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  4. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    @paddyman98

    After examining it, what did you find about yours?
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I believe mines to be correct. It doesn't have a upraised rim so it's just a Blank as stated on the label.
     
  6. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    You 100% sure it's steel and not zinc?
     
  7. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    Everyone should have an Acme® planchet tester

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  8. Old Error Guy

    Old Error Guy Well-Known Member

    From my experience lately, with NGC and errors, I think the ones they get right are actually rarer.
     
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  9. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    Let me put a magnet up against the screen to see if the planchet is steel or zinc.........
     
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  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Could you explain what the difference is (is one darker or lighter, have a different shade of grey or something like that)?

    And, wouldn't an unplated planchet be rather rare? I could see a copper plated planchet being fairly common, but just the bare zinc core?
     
  11. Ana Silverbell

    Ana Silverbell Well-Known Member

    I assume a magnet test would be definitive, am I correct?

    Did you do a magnet test? If yes, what was the outcome?
     
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    My thoughts exactly, although I guess a simple magnet test trumps everything else.

    I've never seen a zinc-plated steel planchet, but until enough zinc corrodes away to expose steel, I don't see how it would look different from a pure zinc planchet. Maybe the exposed steel around the edge would look different, if you can look closely enough?
     
  13. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    If this coin sticks to a magnet then somebody owes NGC an apology.
     
  14. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Unplated zinc planchets and blanks can be found easily and are offered by major error dealers for around $10-$20

    As for color, I have never, ever seen a bright and lustrous steel blank or planchet. Never.
    Zinc ones have a much more defined rim and tend to have a brighter blue tint.

    There is no question this is a zinc cent planchet. The submitter sent about 30 of these to NGC and all were mislabeled as steel planchets.

    @paddyman I really think yours is zinc unfortunately. Same lot # from the same submitter. All 30 he sent were zimc cent planchets
     
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  15. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    If it does, then it is steel actually
     
  16. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    So has it been given the magnet test? Or a specific gravity test?
     
  17. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    I received from my CT Secret Santa, (among a slew of other loot) an un-struck planchette. It is in plastic and when I bring a magnet near to it, I feel the slightest of tugs — that is all. Not enough attraction to pick it up. Here is a photo of mine.

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  18. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    1. It is slabbed

    2. I don't need to. I know it is zinc. 100%
     
  19. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    It won't. Zinc is not magnetic
     
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  20. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Got it already slabbed
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    A good rare-earth magnet ought to work through the slab, though.

    Yep, just tried it with an old hard-drive magnet and a circulated steelie. The magnet would lift the cent with a slabbed gold eagle between them. A slabbed steel planchet would feel enough pull to hold up its slab as well; there'd be no mistaking it.
     
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