Magnus Maximus and Valens and Ammianus Marcellinus

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  1. Victor_Clark

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    Magnus Maximus Siliqua, struck AD 383-388 at Trier mint.
    Obv: D N MAG MAXIMVS P F AVG, diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: VIRTVS ROMANORVM / TRPS, Roma seated facing, head left, holding globe in right and spear in left hand.
    1,54 g, 16 mm. RIC 84 b​


    The most important primary source of the period was written by Ammianus Marcellinus who has nothing good to say about Maximus. In A.D. 376 Maximinus was second-in-command to Lupicinus. They were in charge of settling the Goths in Roman territory. Marcellinus (31:4) wrote that -

    "The critical situation resulting from the opening of our frontier and in the eruption of armed men from the barbarian lands like lava from Etna called for generals of the highest distinction, but by some unfavourable dispensation of providence men of flawed character were collected and put in command. At their head were Lupicinus and Maximus, the one commander in Thrace and the other a disastrous general, both equally reckless. Their sinister greed was the source of all our troubles."

    Marcellinus said that one crime in particular was most loathsome. The Goths were starving so Lupicinus and Maximus traded them dogs, to be used for food, in exchange for tribesmen, who were to be slaves. Some of the people traded for food were even "the sons of leading men."


    Basically, Marcellinus blamed Maximus (and men like him) for agitating the Goths and pushing them towards rebellion and setting into motion the events which ultimately led to the Battle of Adrianople and the death of Valens.

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    Valens, Eastern Roman Empire (AD 364-378). AE2 (22mm, 4.43 gm, 5h). Trier, AD 367-375. D N VALEN-S P F AVG, pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust of Valens right, seen from front / GLORI-A ROMA-NORVM, campgate with six rows, two turrets, no doors; S above, SMTR in exergue. RIC IX 29b.



    post your Mag Max and his son or some coins of the poor Valens
     
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  3. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Supporter! Supporter

    Poor Valens as you said. It seems he forgot to put solar cream and got a sunburn...

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  4. Andres2

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  5. gsimonel

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    Three rather humble examples:
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    Valens
    Augustus, A.D. 364-378
    (Bronze) AE III
    Thessalonica mint, A.D. 364-367
    Obv: D N VALEN-S P F AVG
    Rev: RESTITV-TOR REIP - Emperor, standing right, with laborum and holding Victory on globe
    TESΓ in exergue
    RIC 17(b)
    18x20mm, 3.3g.

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    Magnus Maximus
    Augustus, A.D. 383-388
    (Bronze) AE II
    Arlate mint, A.D. 383-388
    Obv: D N MAG MAXI-MVS P F AVG
    Rev: REPARATIO REIPVB - Emperor, standing, facing left, holding Victory on globe and raising kneeling turreted woman
    PCON in exergue
    RIC 26(a)
    22mm, 4.2g.

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    Flavius Victor
    (Infant son of Magnus Maximus)
    Augustus, A.D. 387-388
    (Bronze) AE IV
    Rome mint, A.D. 387-388
    Obv: D N FL VIC-TOR P F AVG
    Rev: SPES RO-MA-NORVM - Campgate with star between two turrets
    [RB?] in exergue
    RIC 59
    13mm, 0.9g.
     
  6. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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    Magnus Maximus (383 - 388 A.D.)
    Æ13
    O: D N MAG MAXIMVS P F AVG; Pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    R: SPES ROMANORVM; Camp-gate with star between its two turrets // RT
    Rome Mint 387-388 A.D.
    13mm
    1.1g
    RIC IX 59.3, p. 131, rare.

    From the Doug Smith Collection #1507

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    Valens (364 - 378 A.D.)
    Æ3
    O: DN VALENS PF AVG , Pearl - diademed , draped bust right .
    R: SECVRITAS REIPVBLICAE,Victory advancing left holding wreath and palm .D over Symbol in left field. F in right field. ASISCV in Exe.
    Siscia
    18mm
    2.6g
    RIC IX Siscia 15(b), xliii

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  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Basileus Megalos

    Magnus Maximus, 383 - 388 A.D.

    AE 2, 24mm 5.7 grams

    Obverse: DN MAG MAXIMVS PF AVG
    Diademed head right, draped and cuirassed

    Reverse: REPARATIO REIPVB
    Maximus standing left, crowned by Victory, raising kneeled, turreted figure of a woman

    Mintmark: TCON (Arles)

    Reference: RIC IX, 26A, Sear 20650


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  8. tenbobbit

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    Not in the best condition, my Valens from Lyon

    Obv - DN VALENS PF AVG
    Rev - RESTITVTOR REIP
    MM - PLVG

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  9. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    A Magnus Maximus siliqua from Northamptonshire:

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  10. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    Maximus is a fascinating character - usually glorified (and even represented as an ancestor of King Arthur), so it's good to see another side.

    Here's a rare Constantinople issue from the brief period at the end of 383 or beginning of 384 when Theodosius recognized Magnus Maximus:
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    Going the other way (West representing East), here's a siliqua of Valens from Arles:
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