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<p>[QUOTE="S. Porter, post: 3200440, member: 86735"]Using a neodymium magnet ($6 from Amazon), I checked my ancient bronze coins. Several could be picked up onto the magnet, and many more reacted slightly.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coins that the magnet picked up include Lydia/Sardis, Thrace/Rhoemetalkes, Caracalla, Philip, Constantine, Constantius II, Jovian, Valens, and a tiny late Roman (Arcadius-ish).[ATTACH=full]828170[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>And an obvious fourree of Caracalla.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]828172[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Also several from the junk box.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]828173[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Apparently, magnetism in ancient bronzes is not a sign of a fake coin (except for fourrées with iron or cobalt in their cores), but rather occurs because bronze coins could contain a range of metals.</p><p><br /></p><p>A Coin Talk search for “magnetic” shows references to magnetic coins scattered in threads about individual coins. In one thread, Mike Margolis linked to a thorough discussion in ForumAncientCoins, which states:</p><p><br /></p><p>“I did find it interesting at first just to realize some of the bronzes were 'magnetic' at all. … It wasn't so much a matter of being 'pure' or 'impure', rather the specific metals making up the bronze <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=alloy" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=alloy" rel="nofollow">alloy</a> and their proportions. The ranges of alloys in ancient bronze coins is highly variable to begin with. The presence of enough iron and cobalt to make a bronze 'magnetic' is fairly unusual, but those coins aren't necessarily more 'impure' than others with lead or other peculiar <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=alloy" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=alloy" rel="nofollow">alloy</a> components.” <a href="http://www.ptolemybronze.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ptolemybronze.com/" rel="nofollow">PtolemAE</a></p><p><br /></p><p>“Cobalt and iron are closely associated with copper ore deposits and can be quite difficult to completely separate out during the refining process. … Additionally these trace elements might help determine the location on the copper deposits used in this coinage. Do the coins with magnetic properties come from the same region?” Cameron <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=49787.25" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=49787.25" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=49787.25</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Any other info that might be appreciated by people searching Coin Talk for information on magnetic ancient bronzes?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="S. Porter, post: 3200440, member: 86735"]Using a neodymium magnet ($6 from Amazon), I checked my ancient bronze coins. Several could be picked up onto the magnet, and many more reacted slightly. The coins that the magnet picked up include Lydia/Sardis, Thrace/Rhoemetalkes, Caracalla, Philip, Constantine, Constantius II, Jovian, Valens, and a tiny late Roman (Arcadius-ish).[ATTACH=full]828170[/ATTACH] And an obvious fourree of Caracalla. [ATTACH=full]828172[/ATTACH] Also several from the junk box. [ATTACH=full]828173[/ATTACH] Apparently, magnetism in ancient bronzes is not a sign of a fake coin (except for fourrées with iron or cobalt in their cores), but rather occurs because bronze coins could contain a range of metals. A Coin Talk search for “magnetic” shows references to magnetic coins scattered in threads about individual coins. In one thread, Mike Margolis linked to a thorough discussion in ForumAncientCoins, which states: “I did find it interesting at first just to realize some of the bronzes were 'magnetic' at all. … It wasn't so much a matter of being 'pure' or 'impure', rather the specific metals making up the bronze [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=alloy']alloy[/URL] and their proportions. The ranges of alloys in ancient bronze coins is highly variable to begin with. The presence of enough iron and cobalt to make a bronze 'magnetic' is fairly unusual, but those coins aren't necessarily more 'impure' than others with lead or other peculiar [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=alloy']alloy[/URL] components.” [URL='http://www.ptolemybronze.com/']PtolemAE[/URL] “Cobalt and iron are closely associated with copper ore deposits and can be quite difficult to completely separate out during the refining process. … Additionally these trace elements might help determine the location on the copper deposits used in this coinage. Do the coins with magnetic properties come from the same region?” Cameron [url]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=49787.25[/url] Any other info that might be appreciated by people searching Coin Talk for information on magnetic ancient bronzes?[/QUOTE]
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