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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3235273, member: 75937"]I bought this from a V-coins dealer who described it as a "hybrid mule type with reverse of Julia Domna." However, he erred in saying its reverse type is a denarius of Julia Domna. It isn't; it has a reverse type of Julia Mamaea.</p><p><br /></p><p>I presume it's an ancient counterfeit -- it's underweight and doesn't quite match any official issue. Yet, there's no indication of a base metal core. I can find no other example of this coin online and I've looked at acsearch info, Coin Archives, Wildwinds, The Coin Project, OCRE, and v-coins. It is not in Sear, BMCRE or CRE. </p><p><br /></p><p>Sorry about the photo; the coin itself has frosty and porous surfaces, as if it were harshly cleaned by acid, and it doesn't photograph well.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'd love to hear your comments about this one:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]845742[/ATTACH]</p><p>Julia Maesa, AD 218-225.</p><p>Roman (counterfeit?) AR denarius, 2.35 g, 19.2 mm, 5 h.</p><p>Roman mint style</p><p>Obv: IVLIA MAESA AVG, bare-headed and draped bust, right.</p><p>Rev: VENVS VICTRIX, Venus standing left, holding helmet and scepter, shield at her feet (reverse type of Julia Mamaea, RIC 358).</p><p>Refs: Similar to RIC 275 and Cohen 52.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's the listing in RIC, but the reverse description doesn't quite match:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]845744[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Rather, the reverse type seems to be this one of Julia Mamaea, RIC 358:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]845749[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You'll note the footnote in RIC speaks of an eastern issue where Venus holds a statuette. This undoubtedly refers to a coin such as <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5208355" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5208355" rel="nofollow">this one</a>, sold by Naumann (Auction 69, lot 399, Sept. 2, 2018):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]845745[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I suspect that Cohen 52 (which is cited by RIC as 275), is actually this coin, but the reverse device was unclear and Cohen, expecting to see Venus Victrix holding a helmet, described it as a helmet:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]845748[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>BMC lists a large variety of hybrids mixing obverses and reverses of Julia Domna, Julia Maesa, and Julia Soamias, but this isn't on their list.</p><p><br /></p><p>The BMC does have a <a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1152640&partId=1&searchText=Maesa+VENVS+VICTRIX+denarius&page=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1152640&partId=1&searchText=Maesa+VENVS+VICTRIX+denarius&page=1" rel="nofollow">denarius of eastern mintage</a> (purchased from Curtis Clay, interestingly enough), which depicts Venus standing left, holding a vertical scepter in her right hand and cornucopia in her left one:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]845743[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>So, my coin doesn't appear to match any official issue and appears to be a mule combining the obverse of Julia Maesa with a reverse type of her daughter, Julia Mamaea. It's almost certainly a counterfeit, but doesn't seem to be fouree.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3235273, member: 75937"]I bought this from a V-coins dealer who described it as a "hybrid mule type with reverse of Julia Domna." However, he erred in saying its reverse type is a denarius of Julia Domna. It isn't; it has a reverse type of Julia Mamaea. I presume it's an ancient counterfeit -- it's underweight and doesn't quite match any official issue. Yet, there's no indication of a base metal core. I can find no other example of this coin online and I've looked at acsearch info, Coin Archives, Wildwinds, The Coin Project, OCRE, and v-coins. It is not in Sear, BMCRE or CRE. Sorry about the photo; the coin itself has frosty and porous surfaces, as if it were harshly cleaned by acid, and it doesn't photograph well. I'd love to hear your comments about this one: [ATTACH=full]845742[/ATTACH] Julia Maesa, AD 218-225. Roman (counterfeit?) AR denarius, 2.35 g, 19.2 mm, 5 h. Roman mint style Obv: IVLIA MAESA AVG, bare-headed and draped bust, right. Rev: VENVS VICTRIX, Venus standing left, holding helmet and scepter, shield at her feet (reverse type of Julia Mamaea, RIC 358). Refs: Similar to RIC 275 and Cohen 52. Here's the listing in RIC, but the reverse description doesn't quite match: [ATTACH=full]845744[/ATTACH] Rather, the reverse type seems to be this one of Julia Mamaea, RIC 358: [ATTACH=full]845749[/ATTACH] You'll note the footnote in RIC speaks of an eastern issue where Venus holds a statuette. This undoubtedly refers to a coin such as [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5208355']this one[/URL], sold by Naumann (Auction 69, lot 399, Sept. 2, 2018): [ATTACH=full]845745[/ATTACH] I suspect that Cohen 52 (which is cited by RIC as 275), is actually this coin, but the reverse device was unclear and Cohen, expecting to see Venus Victrix holding a helmet, described it as a helmet: [ATTACH=full]845748[/ATTACH] BMC lists a large variety of hybrids mixing obverses and reverses of Julia Domna, Julia Maesa, and Julia Soamias, but this isn't on their list. The BMC does have a [URL='https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1152640&partId=1&searchText=Maesa+VENVS+VICTRIX+denarius&page=1']denarius of eastern mintage[/URL] (purchased from Curtis Clay, interestingly enough), which depicts Venus standing left, holding a vertical scepter in her right hand and cornucopia in her left one: [ATTACH=full]845743[/ATTACH] So, my coin doesn't appear to match any official issue and appears to be a mule combining the obverse of Julia Maesa with a reverse type of her daughter, Julia Mamaea. It's almost certainly a counterfeit, but doesn't seem to be fouree.[/QUOTE]
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