I got these today in a coin shops foreign coin bin. They seem to be contemporary counterfeits do to their quality. They are also slightly thinner than original coins. Anyways, I was wondering if there was a chance any of these two coins may be Machin's Mills pieces? (Sorry I straightened the photos before I posted them, not sure why they are now rotated)
You might want to take this over to collectors universe forums and post it in the foreign section over there .