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<p>[QUOTE="mynamespat, post: 2709377, member: 83738"]Definitely more repeatable (ADD <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />). More accurate.. is a bit debatable. It depends on what we consider for accuracy since a computer can still only do what it is programed to do. If an anomaly arises which it doesn't have a programmed response for it cannot react. A human has the ability to adapt to random variables at a moments notice. </p><p>(for example: on some graded reverse proof coins there are small spots in the fields which don't have the "cameo" effect. To the human eye these stand out like a red flag. ..but apparently they snuck past the grading company and were given a 70. I've seen these most often in First Strike designated holders which i have come to assume are graded with their machine.) </p><p><br /></p><p>Computerized optics has a huge advantage in fringe areas which are outside of the human eye's limitations, but I don't see them replacing standard visual inspections anytime soon. The cost to perform these type operations by computer starts adding up very quickly due to huge consumption of energy and set-up costs.</p><p><br /></p><p>fwiw-Not arguing. I understand what you are saying and I don't even really disagree. I think we are just looking at it from different angles. It starts getting into a very knitty analysis of what we consider efficient in practical application. I don't really anticipate this type of tech to be cost effective until <i>true</i> AI exists even as the optics themselves improve. (also... I just find this type of topic fascinating- I really hope one of the photo experts will come around with a direct analysis of current tech vs. human abilities)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>oh.. and one more point I forgot in my past post. In high volume machining one of the largest problems is performing operations without damaging the product. Right now, in order to pump coins quickly thru the high-volume sorting machines, they warsh them (it looks like with some sort of detergent) so the gunk doesn't clog up the machine. We also tend to see coins which have roller damage around the edges (in the past wheel marks). So, doing this type of thing quickly and efficiently without damaging the coins is also a huge hurdle.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mynamespat, post: 2709377, member: 83738"]Definitely more repeatable (ADD ;)). More accurate.. is a bit debatable. It depends on what we consider for accuracy since a computer can still only do what it is programed to do. If an anomaly arises which it doesn't have a programmed response for it cannot react. A human has the ability to adapt to random variables at a moments notice. (for example: on some graded reverse proof coins there are small spots in the fields which don't have the "cameo" effect. To the human eye these stand out like a red flag. ..but apparently they snuck past the grading company and were given a 70. I've seen these most often in First Strike designated holders which i have come to assume are graded with their machine.) Computerized optics has a huge advantage in fringe areas which are outside of the human eye's limitations, but I don't see them replacing standard visual inspections anytime soon. The cost to perform these type operations by computer starts adding up very quickly due to huge consumption of energy and set-up costs. fwiw-Not arguing. I understand what you are saying and I don't even really disagree. I think we are just looking at it from different angles. It starts getting into a very knitty analysis of what we consider efficient in practical application. I don't really anticipate this type of tech to be cost effective until [I]true[/I] AI exists even as the optics themselves improve. (also... I just find this type of topic fascinating- I really hope one of the photo experts will come around with a direct analysis of current tech vs. human abilities) oh.. and one more point I forgot in my past post. In high volume machining one of the largest problems is performing operations without damaging the product. Right now, in order to pump coins quickly thru the high-volume sorting machines, they warsh them (it looks like with some sort of detergent) so the gunk doesn't clog up the machine. We also tend to see coins which have roller damage around the edges (in the past wheel marks). So, doing this type of thing quickly and efficiently without damaging the coins is also a huge hurdle.[/QUOTE]
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