Machine doubling?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Dtort, Oct 22, 2020.

  1. Dtort

    Dtort Member

    I've seen lots of cases where people mistake machine doubling for doubled-die coins. And I'm wondering now if I have an example of this. I just got a 1963 proof Roosevelt dime where a previous owner marked the flip as FS-803. But after looking at the coin with a macro lens and using the "Wexler's Coins and Die Variety" website as a reference, I'm pretty sure it ISN'T a FS-803. But it doesn't match anything else in the Wexler site either, as far as I can tell.
    But it has this interesting doubling on the "ONE" in "One Dime", and if you zoom in, it sure looks like tripling on the left side of the "P" in "Pluribus".
    Is "mechanical tripling" a thing?

    Mystery dime.jpg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    I'm not seeing it , maybe Machine doubling with mirror doubling (worthless doubling ), at best .
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2020
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Please take notice from the pic above that the doubling adds to the size of the devices. This is a immediate Pick up for a Doubled Die.
    Yes tripling can happen but it also happens to DDO's, There are at least three different quadruple die obverses.
     
  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    I'm having a hard time with it . Maybe side by side comparison better , for me anyways but who am I . lol
     
  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    Need to see whole coin please .
     
  7. Dtort

    Dtort Member

    Will post in am!
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  9. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    What are you using for Pics ? Should only need a loop to see this one .
     
  10. Dtort

    Dtort Member

    Right, I don't think so either. But it does have some other "Doubling" that is probably worthless doubling - and I wanted confirmation as I'm new at this. I'm about to post other pics.
     
  11. Dtort

    Dtort Member

    Here's other pics. The whole coins are just with an iPhone - the macro lens is a 25x and cannot get the whole coin in focus. Sorry! But the closeups are with the macro lens. You can see 'doubling' 1963_obverse.JPG 1963_reverse.JPG Macro_LIberty_1963.jpg Macro_staTES_1963 (2).jpg Macro_STates_1963.jpg , but it doesn't look like the examples I've seen of true doubling. I welcome people's opinions.
     
  12. Dtort

    Dtort Member

    Added size of devices: Do you mean the E and the P in E Pluribus Unum? They seemed a little large to me. Or were you looking at something else?
     
  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Most of the reverse shows extra size in the devices. There are split serifs on the P in EPU.
     
  14. Dtort

    Dtort Member

    Well, if anyone needs me, I'll be looking through Variety Vista seeinf if this coin matches:)
     
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