Macedonia under Roman rule Tetradrachm

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  1. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    I really like the obverse design on this coin. It makes beautiful work of the large flan. But I also love the writing on the reverse.

    All in all definitely a great coin in my opinion :).

    MACEDON UNDER ROME. First Meris. Ca. 167-148 BC. AR tetradrachm (32mm, 17.00 gm, 12h). NGC XF 5/5 - 4/5. Diademed, draped bust of Artemis right, bow and quiver over shoulder, in the tondo of Macedonian shield / MAKEΔONΩN / ΠPΩTHΣ, club of Heracles right; ΣΗΑTΡ monogram above, TKP and MYEΩT monograms below; all within oak wreath, thunderbolt to left. SNG Copenhagen 1315. SNG Ashmolean 3299.
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  3. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    A great coin indeed! Yours, I assume?
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  4. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Yeah it’s beautiful!

    Nah I don’t own it yet but I have a pretty high winning bid on it so I’m like 90% sure I’ll win it. I bid quite a bit more than previous sales of the same coin earlier this year.

    Sorry I didn’t mean to imply I owned it. I just wanted to share what I think is a beautiful coin that I had never seen before.
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  5. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    No apologies necessary. Good luck!
  6. El Cazador

    El Cazador Active Member

    Unspoken rule here: generally do not advertise coins that are in active auction - i am eyeing it too! Now you attracted 19x more attention and bidding will be fierce. Please refrain from doing so going forward!

    thank you
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  7. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Thanks! :)

    I wonder if more elaborate designs made coins harder to counterfeit?
  8. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Fair enough. I won’t do it anymore. I’ve never done so but it was just such a cool coin I thought other people would like to see it since I know I love when people share cool coins.
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  9. El Cazador

    El Cazador Active Member

    Me too, but these are active auctions and you are underbidder now, btw:)))
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  10. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    I am waiting for Live Auction to submit my final bid. :)

    No matter who wins if bringing attention to it drives up the price it’s a good thing.

    It’s sad when great coins don’t get the price they are worth.

    A hot coin market is a good thing.
  11. El Cazador

    El Cazador Active Member

    - I bet 99.9% of CT members will disagree , unless, you enjoy spreading the wealth:)
    I will place that bid at $625 now:)
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  12. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Ask those CT members when they are selling their collections and I bet 99.9% of them would agree coins should sell for what they are worth.

    No coin seller wants to sell their coins at a large discount.

    Feel free to bid as high as you want. I like that since I want the seller to get a fair price for this exquisite example of this coin.
  13. Nvb

    Nvb Well-Known Member

    I was just looking at my collection last night and spent some time with this one.

    It had been a while.. not quite as well centred as your target but nice in hand and I’ve always liked the deep toning and contrast of this coin

    I should really get around to re-photographing it :)


    Greek, Macedon
    (Roman Protectorate, First Meris, ±167-149 B.C.)

    Obv.: Diademed bust of Artemis to the right, quiver over her shoulder, within an ornate Macedonian shield
    Rev.: Horizontal club within oak wreath, thunderbolt to the left
    Ex: May 2013, Lot 86


    [​IMG] Ag (16.91 g, 29 mm, 12 h)
    [​IMG] SNG Ashmolean 3296
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2021
  14. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Beautiful!! ^_^
  15. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Supporter! Supporter

    Does the obverse die shift bother you? It's an attractive type but that's a deal breaker for me as it's significantly disrupting the design.
  16. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Paid 250 Euro for mine, but that was 4 years ago.

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  17. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Excellent choice if the die shift doesn't bother you :). The type has been on my buy list for a long time but I never seem to find the right one at the right time at the right price.

    Edited to add: oh... it's not yours yet. If I were to browse this auction later today and then decide to bid on it, that might look like I "stole" your target. Bad for both of us. Best not to discuss specific coins in upcoming auctions for this and many more reasons.
  18. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    Agreed, those lips would bother me also. I'm surprised they didn't designate that or factor it into strike.

    I much prefer the example that was in CNG 118. I bid on that one but didn't love it enough for the price.
  19. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Great looking coin.

    Macedonia, Roman Protectorate, First Meris, (167 - 148 B.C.)
    AR Tetradrachm
    O: Diademed and draped bust of Artemis right, bow and quiver over shoulder, in the center of a Macedonian shield.
    R: MAKEDONWN PRWTHS; Club; monogram above, two monograms below; all within oak wreath, thunderbolt to left.
    Amphipolis Mint
    SNG Copenhagen 1315 // AMNG 176
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  20. kirispupis

    kirispupis Supporter! Supporter

    This is an attractive type that's recently become a lot more popular. I recall this being a coin that was obtainable for < 500 about a year ago. Nowadays, if you're patient, one can be had in similar condition for about a 1000.

    Note that at Heritage the serious buyers wait until the live auction or the very end to place their bids. My guess is this will go in the 2000-2500 range, though I don't think it's worth that.
  21. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Supporter! Supporter

    Roman Protectorate of Macedon 167-159 BC Amphipolis Mint Obv. Macedonian Shield emblazoned with the bust of Artemis Tauropilos right. Rv. Club within Oak wreath. To left thunderbolt. Prokopov 560 HGC 1103 16.67 grms 30 mm Photo by W. Hansen macedon4.jpg Much of the imagery of this coin is consistent with that which preceded it. The shield motif found on the obverse, the club and oak wreath on the reverse can be found on coins minted under the aegis of the Macedonian Kingdom.
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