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<p>[QUOTE="CoinCorgi, post: 8356227, member: 88934"]Also found this info which I have yet to digest.</p><p><br /></p><p>(<a href="https://internet.beethoven.de/en/exhibition/beethovens-capital/id17.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://internet.beethoven.de/en/exhibition/beethovens-capital/id17.html" rel="nofollow">https://internet.beethoven.de/en/exhibition/beethovens-capital/id17.html</a>)</p><p><br /></p><p>Money circulating in Austria at Beethoven's time</p><p><br /></p><p><b>1. Money of the Austrian empire and Hereditary Lands</b></p><p><br /></p><p><i>1753-1858 Convention coins (C.M.)</i></p><p>1 thaler = 2 florins (fl.C.M.) = 120 kreuzers</p><p>1 Penny = 3 kreuzers</p><p>Bohemia: 1 Gröschl = ¾ kreuzer</p><p>Vorlande: 10 kreuzers C.M. = 12 kreuzers (Hereditary Land)</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Gold coins</i></p><p>1 Ducat = 4 fl.C.M. 30 kreuzers (official rate 1786-1858)</p><p><br /></p><p><i>1762-1811 Vienna Banco-Zettel (B.Z.)</i></p><p>1796 1 fl.C.M. = 1 fl.B.Z.</p><p>1800 1 fl.C.M. = 1.15 fl.B.Z.</p><p>1805 1 fl.C.M. = 1.5 fl.B.Z.</p><p>1810 1 fl.C.M. = 4.92 fl.B.Z.</p><p>1811 1 fl.C.M. = up to 10.94 fl.B.Z.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>After 1811 Vienna currency (W.W.)</i></p><p>1 florin W.W.= 5 fl.B.Z</p><p>30 kreuzers B.Z. divisional coins = 6 kreuzers W.W.</p><p>15 kreuzers B.Z. divisional coins = 3 kreuzers W.W</p><p><br /></p><p>1811 1 fl.C.M. = 2.19 fl.W.W.</p><p>1813 1 fl.C.M. = 1.59 fl.W.W.</p><p>1815 1 fl.C.M. = 3.51 fl.W.W.</p><p>1816 1 fl.C.M. = 3.27 fl.W.W.</p><p>1819 1 fl.C.M. = 2.49 fl.W.W.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>1816 Return to the Convention coins</i></p><p>1 fl.C.M. = 2.5 fl.W.W. = 12.5 fl.B.Z. (fixed rate from 1820 onwards)</p><p>3 kreuzers W.W. = 3/5 kreuzer C.M.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>2. Value of foreign coins in Convention coins</b></p><p><br /></p><p><i>Gold coins</i></p><p>1 Doppia (Milan) = 7 fl.C.M. 12 kr.</p><p>1 Ducat (Italy, Bavaria, Salzburg, Netherlands, etc.) = 4 fl.C.M. 18 kr. - 4 fl.C.M. 28 kr.</p><p>1 Louis d´or (France) = 7 fl.C.M. 20 kr. - 9 fl.C.M. 12 kr.</p><p>1 Max d´or (Bavaria) = 5 fl.C.M. 54 kr. - 6 fl.C.M. 45 kr.</p><p>1 Pistole = approx. 7 fl.C.M. 30 kr.</p><p>1 Souverain d´or = 13 fl.C.M. 20 kr.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Silver coins</i></p><p>1 Kronenthaler (Netherlands and other) = 2 fl.C.M. 12 kr.</p><p>1 Laubthaler (France) = 2 fl.C.M. 16 kr.</p><p>1 Pound (Britain) = 10-11 fl.C.M.</p><p>1 Reichsthaler (Prussia) = 1 fl.C.M. 30 kr.</p><p>1 Ruble (Russia) = 1 fl.C.M. 40 Kr.</p><p>1 Scudo (Milan) = 1 fl.C.M. 46 kr. - 2 fl.C.M.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Approximate conversion rate to Euro</i></p><p>1790 1 fl.C.M. = 23.982 Euro</p><p>1830 1 fl.C.M. = 15.458 Euro</p><p><br /></p><p>fl.=florin; kr.=kreuzer[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="CoinCorgi, post: 8356227, member: 88934"]Also found this info which I have yet to digest. ([URL]https://internet.beethoven.de/en/exhibition/beethovens-capital/id17.html[/URL]) Money circulating in Austria at Beethoven's time [B]1. Money of the Austrian empire and Hereditary Lands[/B] [I]1753-1858 Convention coins (C.M.)[/I] 1 thaler = 2 florins (fl.C.M.) = 120 kreuzers 1 Penny = 3 kreuzers Bohemia: 1 Gröschl = ¾ kreuzer Vorlande: 10 kreuzers C.M. = 12 kreuzers (Hereditary Land) [I]Gold coins[/I] 1 Ducat = 4 fl.C.M. 30 kreuzers (official rate 1786-1858) [I]1762-1811 Vienna Banco-Zettel (B.Z.)[/I] 1796 1 fl.C.M. = 1 fl.B.Z. 1800 1 fl.C.M. = 1.15 fl.B.Z. 1805 1 fl.C.M. = 1.5 fl.B.Z. 1810 1 fl.C.M. = 4.92 fl.B.Z. 1811 1 fl.C.M. = up to 10.94 fl.B.Z. [I]After 1811 Vienna currency (W.W.)[/I] 1 florin W.W.= 5 fl.B.Z 30 kreuzers B.Z. divisional coins = 6 kreuzers W.W. 15 kreuzers B.Z. divisional coins = 3 kreuzers W.W 1811 1 fl.C.M. = 2.19 fl.W.W. 1813 1 fl.C.M. = 1.59 fl.W.W. 1815 1 fl.C.M. = 3.51 fl.W.W. 1816 1 fl.C.M. = 3.27 fl.W.W. 1819 1 fl.C.M. = 2.49 fl.W.W. [I]1816 Return to the Convention coins[/I] 1 fl.C.M. = 2.5 fl.W.W. = 12.5 fl.B.Z. (fixed rate from 1820 onwards) 3 kreuzers W.W. = 3/5 kreuzer C.M. [B]2. Value of foreign coins in Convention coins[/B] [I]Gold coins[/I] 1 Doppia (Milan) = 7 fl.C.M. 12 kr. 1 Ducat (Italy, Bavaria, Salzburg, Netherlands, etc.) = 4 fl.C.M. 18 kr. - 4 fl.C.M. 28 kr. 1 Louis d´or (France) = 7 fl.C.M. 20 kr. - 9 fl.C.M. 12 kr. 1 Max d´or (Bavaria) = 5 fl.C.M. 54 kr. - 6 fl.C.M. 45 kr. 1 Pistole = approx. 7 fl.C.M. 30 kr. 1 Souverain d´or = 13 fl.C.M. 20 kr. [I]Silver coins[/I] 1 Kronenthaler (Netherlands and other) = 2 fl.C.M. 12 kr. 1 Laubthaler (France) = 2 fl.C.M. 16 kr. 1 Pound (Britain) = 10-11 fl.C.M. 1 Reichsthaler (Prussia) = 1 fl.C.M. 30 kr. 1 Ruble (Russia) = 1 fl.C.M. 40 Kr. 1 Scudo (Milan) = 1 fl.C.M. 46 kr. - 2 fl.C.M. [I]Approximate conversion rate to Euro[/I] 1790 1 fl.C.M. = 23.982 Euro 1830 1 fl.C.M. = 15.458 Euro fl.=florin; kr.=kreuzer[/QUOTE]
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