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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Marsyas Mike, post: 8141862, member: 85693&quot;]Happy new year, everybody.&nbsp; I am bringing up this old post because I recently obtained one of the type and I found myself getting confused.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I have to agree with [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER] - there are a lot of these, especially if you add Marcus Aurelius with Lucius Verus.&nbsp; If you search CONCORD AVGVSTOR in OCRE, and limit that to the sestertius denomination, there are 24 hits!&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=fulltext%3ACONCORD+AVGVSTOR+AND+denomination_facet%3A%22Sestertius%22" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=fulltext%3ACONCORD+AVGVSTOR+AND+denomination_facet%3A%22Sestertius%22" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=fulltext:CONCORD+AVGVSTOR+AND+denomination_facet:&quot;Sestertius&quot;</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Whenever I try to attribute a coin like this - many varieties of the same basic design - I find that a lot of online sources (acsearch, etc.) tend to not be very accurate.&nbsp; My hunch is auction houses don&#039;t really get more money on a minor variety, so it does not pay to spend a lot of time nailing things down.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>And now to my coin.&nbsp; First off, mine has Marcus Aurelius on the obverse.&nbsp; And XVI is the TRP year; this narrows it down to five (!) on OCRE:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=fulltext%3ACONCORD+AVGVSTOR+AND+denomination_facet%3A%22Sestertius%22+AND+portrait_facet%3A%22Marcus+Aurelius%22+AND+fulltext%3AXVI" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=fulltext%3ACONCORD+AVGVSTOR+AND+denomination_facet%3A%22Sestertius%22+AND+portrait_facet%3A%22Marcus+Aurelius%22+AND+fulltext%3AXVI" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=fulltext:CONCORD+AVGVSTOR+AND+denomination_facet:&quot;Sestertius&quot;+AND+portrait_facet:&quot;Marcus+Aurelius&quot;+AND+fulltext:XVI</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I think mine is bare-headed, which narrows it down further:</p><p><br /></p><p>RIC 823:&nbsp; head only</p><p>RIC 824:&nbsp; cuirassed only</p><p>RIC 825:&nbsp; aegis only</p><p><br /></p><p>The problem is, mine seems to be draped as well as cuirassed; this is not listed on OCRE.&nbsp; The other problem is that I think I found a die match to a Wildwinds example, described as RIC 826 var.&nbsp; which is described as <i>laureate</i>...but I don&#039;t see the laurels!&nbsp; The &quot;var.&quot; part of the description comes from the bust being draped as well as cuirassed; OCRE has this as just a laureate head; RIC 827 is a laureate head with drapery on the shoulder (so the Wildwinds example could be RIC 827 var. too, I guess, if you want to keep the laurels).&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Compounding my confusion, I believe the Wildwinds example is an obverse die match to mine.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Now on to the coins:</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is Wildwinds RIC 826 var. described as laureate (I believe in error):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1419423[/ATTACH] </p><p><a href="https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/marcus_aurelius/RIC_0826var_Cohen_57.txt" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/marcus_aurelius/RIC_0826var_Cohen_57.txt" rel="nofollow">https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/marcus_aurelius/RIC_0826var_Cohen_57.txt</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is mine, with my effort at an attribution<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie87" alt=":sorry:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1419424[/ATTACH] </p><p><b>Marcus Aurelius&nbsp; &nbsp; Æ Sestertius</b></p><p><b>(163-164 A.D.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Rome Mint</b></p><p>IMP CAES M AVREL ANTONINVS AVG P M, bare-headed, draped and cuirassed bust right / CONCORD AVGVSTOR TR P XVI COS III S C, M. Aurelius and L. Verus, facing, clasping hands, Aurelius holds scroll. </p><p>RIC III Marcus Aurelius 824 var. (draped as well as cuirassed)</p><p>(22.18 grams / 29 mm)</p><p>eBay Dec. 2021&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><b>Attribution Notes: </b> There are many variations of type, this seems to be a variety, since none are described as draped:</p><p><b>Obv.:</b>&nbsp; Bare-headed bust, cuirassed and also draped</p><p><b>Rev:</b>&nbsp; TR P XVI</p><p>Wildwinds RIC 826var. is wrong (?not laureate?), but seems to be obv. die match for this one, with same drapery.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the Wildwinds obverse (left) paired with my obverse (right), which I think is a die match (note the off-kilter EL ending the left side legend, etc.):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1419425[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Sorry to be so tedious about this, but I was hoping somebody out there could set me straight on this, or confirm my hunches and I wanted to show my homework.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Also, I was also curious about the reason for this large CONCORD AVGVSTOR issue - I understand the basic propaganda about MA and LV getting along as co-emperors, but I wondered if LV&#039;s off to fight the Persian wars or some other military-political matter was behind this issue.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>And for sure, if there are any more of the type out there, please share them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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