Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by JBGood, Dec 5, 2016.

  1. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    I like the coins of Lucania and have been bidding on this type for years.

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    LUCANIA, Metapontion. Circa 340-330 BC. AR Nomos (18.5mm, 7.75 g, 2h). Helmeted head of Leukippos right; to left, dog seated left; Σ below neck truncation / Barley ear with leaf to right; bird above leaf, AMI below. Johnston Class B, 3; HN Italy 1576

    CNG last auction Hammer $240. I'm happy! Show your Lucania silver if you got em.
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2016
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Got none that thats a lovely coin, congrats.
  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    That's a very manly coin. I have a more feminine Lucanian coin :D

    This was one of the first individual ancient coins I bought at auction.
    LUCANIA, Velia
    305-290 BCE
    AR didrachm, 17.5 mm, 7.3 gm
    Obv: Head of Athena right, wearing crested helmet, decorated with griffin; at left, A
    Rev: YEΛHTΩN; lion standing on exergual line; above dolphin between I and Φ
    Ref: SNG ANS 1375-6
  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My favorite has been this obol size 1/12th stater of Metapontion (Metapontum) has an ear of grain obverse and incuse single kernel reverse. Larger denominations had an incuse matching the obverse but this downsize seems appropriate for the tiny coin.
  6. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Supporter! Supporter

    Beautiful coin, great pick up, is it a didrachm?
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    We see the silver unit of this region called by several names including didrachm, stater and nomos. What would you prefer and why? Whatever they are, the other two coins above each would buy 12 of my coin in their day.
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Great OP coin. Love the Obverse portrait.
  9. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Indeed. Great addition!
  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, JBG => that's an awesome OP-example!! (congrats)

    Man, I love the sweet examples from Lucania ... total winners!!

    LUCANIA, Thourioi. AR Nomos
    Circa 400-350 BC
    Diameter: 21 mm
    Weight: 7.35 grams
    Obverse: Head of Athena right, wearing helmet decorated with Skylla holding rudder over shoulder
    Reverse: Bull butting right; below, dolphin right in waves
    Reference: HN Italy 1794b; SNG ANS 1048

    Lucania Thourioi Skylla and Bull AR Nomos.jpg

    Date: 300-280 BC
    Size: 21.65 mm
    Weight: 7.29 grams
    Obverse: Head of Athena left, wearing crested helmet decorated with Griffin, Θ behind neck
    Reverse: YEΛHTΩN, Lion right, tearing at prey; above, grasshopper between Φ-I
    Attribution: SNG ANS 1364

    Lucania Velia AR Nomos.jpg
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I like everything I've seen here so far. Especially @TIF 's piece. Somehow the toning and design on that one speak to me. The second piece in @stevex6 's recent post is pretty dang awesome, too. Nice contrasting toning.
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  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    I don't know what we should call them but as long as the type of metal, size, and weight are stated in the description, it doesn't really matter.
  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh yeah, JBG...great portait...rockin' grain...sweet coin!
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Does anyone know who started the nomos use and why they made the change? Didrachm and stater were standard 30 years ago; was the change based on some evidence that the term was used by the makers or is this like the Aurelianianus rot?
  15. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Very nice BC
  16. ancientnut

    ancientnut Well-Known Member

    Laos, Lucania:

    7 Laos.jpg
    Metapontum, Lucania:

    8 Metapontum.jpg
    9 Metapontum.jpg.png
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  17. ancientnut

    ancientnut Well-Known Member

    Poseidonia, Lucania:
    10 Poseidonia.jpg
    Thurium, Lucania:
    11 Thurium.jpg
    12 Thurium distater.jpg

    Velia, Lucania:
    13 Velia.jpg
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  18. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Supporter! Supporter

    A gorgeous "type set" display, ancientnut! Here's my Lucania distater/dinomos/15.7 gram-weighing-denomination:


    It's a small detail but the reverse is signed on the exergue line by Histor/ISTOROS.
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  19. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

  20. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King Supporter

    Wow, some beautiful examples of ancient Greek art in this thread!
  21. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    Wow, you guys have such beautiful coins! Here is an ugly one. I bought it as an unidentified because I wanted a challenge. The seller knew it was Greek but not what region.

    Usually when I have to identify a coin I can figure out one side or the other and do searches online and in books. This obverse was challenging. At first I thought I saw a shell. Later I thought perhaps a vase, or maybe some armor.

    The reverse made no sense. I thought perhaps a monogram. Eventually I stumbled across the coin in a catalog.

    The coin is a bronze of Herakleia. The obverse depicts a "skyphos", a form of vase I was unaware of and wouldn't have know to search for. No one is quite sure of the reverse. Some references call it "quiver with strap and bow?", others "bird trap?" I believe it is a bird trap.

    A better example of the coin can be seen at . I believe the reverse depicts a trap similar to the one in this three minute YouTube video:
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