LRB, What is it

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  1. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I am a noob with ancients, but am slowly learning. What can members say about this one regarding ruler and authenticity?
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    19 mm, 2.92 g
     
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  3. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    The last savior of paganism, Julian II!
     
  4. furryfrog02

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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    This is from wildwinds:

    Julian II AE3 20mm. DN FL CL IVLI-ANVS PF AVG, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield / VOT X MVLT XX, legend in four lines within wreath, mintmark HERACL

    https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/julian_II/t.html

    I can't make out the exact last part of your mintmark.
     
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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Good job, the long form mintmark is a special one.
     
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  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Julian is the only guy with such a dang fancy beard
     
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  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Yup. That’s what always keys me in before I even read the legend.
    The man’s beard game was on point!
     
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  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    It's always struck me as funny that Julian as caesar had a weird bare head freshly shaved. And then he suddenly rocks the ancient world with a beard for the ages.
     
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  10. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I've been on leave almost a month and have been trying my best to imitate his beard but it is not nearly impressive.
     
  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    OK, now that I have your attention........................this puppy is magnetic!!!!!
     
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  12. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I've never checked any of my LRBs to see if they are magnetic or not. Can anyone else speak to that?
     
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  13. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Just passed a magnet over about 40 LRB, and none stuck.
     
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  14. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    "Shaved" was his christian look, while "bearded" was pagan, a good old way to show his shift back to paganism.
     
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  15. Victor_Clark

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  16. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter I dig ancient coins...

    Yes he had an interesting beard. Supposedly his last words as he lay dying from a spear wound in his spleen were:

    "Thou hast conquered, Galilean." referring to Jesus' triumph over paganism.

    Like a lot of quotes invented by historians in antiquity it is probably embellishment. One of the favorite literary techniques of these writers is to add quotes and speeches attributed to historical characters of importance.

    The account of his death in Ammianus Marcellinus, Liber XXV, passage 21:

    "Meanwhile, all who were present wept, whereupon even then maintaining his authority, he chided them, saying that it was unworthy to mourn for a prince who was called to union with heaven and the stars. Then he himself engaged with the philosophers Maximus and Priscus in an intricate discussion about the nobility of the soul. Suddenly the wound in his pierced side opened wide, the pressure of the blood checked his breath, and after a draught of cold water for which he had asked, in the gloom of midnight he passed quietly away in the thirty-second year of his age."
     
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  17. There was recently a push toward calling the silver infused copper-lead-iron alloy of these later coins: Argentiferous Bronze. However, it doesn't appear to be catching on yet. The coin in question does indeed appear to be genuine, either authentic mint or a well-made contemporary copy.

    Is there more to the story? Did you clean it yourself or purchase it in this condition?
     
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  18. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Great question with the right answers. Enjoyed the lesson thanks.
     
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  19. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    I don't know about a recent push, but there is an article from 1968 on this subject-- Cope, L. H. “The Argentiferous Bronze Alloys of the Large Tetrarchic Folles of A.D. 294-307.” The Numismatic Chronicle 8 (1968) : 115-149.
     
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  20. LOL.
    I stand corrected. I didn't realize the article was 50 odd years old, but on the other hand, 50 years might be considered "recently" when the coins themselves are around 16-1700 yrs old. j/k. good research.
     
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  21. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    That makes sense, but I think most people would be too lazy to say that mouthful. The most common term I've seen is simply "silvered" or "silver washed" for those coins with small (>5%) silver content, much of it deposited on the surface of the coin.
     
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