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<p>[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 4642651, member: 93371"]A friend posted this apparent 1793 chain cent in another forum and asked if it were genuine; was looking to send it out for certification.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1147197[/ATTACH] </p><p>The 1st step I always quickly take in authentication is to try and attribute it as to the genuine variety- if I can't that is a 1st clue something is probably wrong. In this case this example is certainly "trying to be a 1793 S-2" but there are differences I couldn't get past.</p><p><br /></p><p>The obverse resembles the S-2 obverse; the neck truncation is curved, not straight, and there is a lock of hair pointing straight at the 1 in the date like S-2.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1147200[/ATTACH] </p><p>The reverse is close too, especially the position of the lettering and chains but I couldn't get past the chain link "thicknesses/ openings" and couldn't explain these just due to the obvious wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1147201[/ATTACH] </p><p>And then there is of course the "other side", the edge. A genuine chain cent edge should look like the left image of the "vine and bars" edges of the early 1793 varieties.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1147202[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The next steps I take are trying to find matching examples "out there", and with the help of a few friends we find these fine specimens from China. The 1st is a heavy/ thick planchet version with the date further from the edge, and a thin version with the date closer like the subject example.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1147203[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1147204[/ATTACH] </p><p>And both have the same thicknesses/ openings in the chain links I couldn't get past with the subject example.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1147206[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1147207[/ATTACH] </p><p>So, just another Chinese counterfeit artificially weathered in an effort to be a $2K+ "genuine" example...</p><p><br /></p><p>Best, Jack.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 4642651, member: 93371"]A friend posted this apparent 1793 chain cent in another forum and asked if it were genuine; was looking to send it out for certification. [ATTACH=full]1147197[/ATTACH] The 1st step I always quickly take in authentication is to try and attribute it as to the genuine variety- if I can't that is a 1st clue something is probably wrong. In this case this example is certainly "trying to be a 1793 S-2" but there are differences I couldn't get past. The obverse resembles the S-2 obverse; the neck truncation is curved, not straight, and there is a lock of hair pointing straight at the 1 in the date like S-2. [ATTACH=full]1147200[/ATTACH] The reverse is close too, especially the position of the lettering and chains but I couldn't get past the chain link "thicknesses/ openings" and couldn't explain these just due to the obvious wear. [ATTACH=full]1147201[/ATTACH] And then there is of course the "other side", the edge. A genuine chain cent edge should look like the left image of the "vine and bars" edges of the early 1793 varieties. [ATTACH=full]1147202[/ATTACH] The next steps I take are trying to find matching examples "out there", and with the help of a few friends we find these fine specimens from China. The 1st is a heavy/ thick planchet version with the date further from the edge, and a thin version with the date closer like the subject example. [ATTACH=full]1147203[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1147204[/ATTACH] And both have the same thicknesses/ openings in the chain links I couldn't get past with the subject example. [ATTACH=full]1147206[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1147207[/ATTACH] So, just another Chinese counterfeit artificially weathered in an effort to be a $2K+ "genuine" example... Best, Jack.[/QUOTE]
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