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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;The Eidolon, post: 4977261, member: 102103&quot;]I think you&#039;ve got the right category, thanks!&nbsp; I believe it might specifically be</p><p><a href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86211.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86211.html" rel="nofollow">this one</a>, from 1684-88 under Marcantonio Giustinian.&nbsp; When I looked the beaded</p><p>ring on the reverse, one thing that bugged me is that is irregular.&nbsp; It starts around</p><p>chin height on the left and ends at the top of the head on the right side.&nbsp; Of all the</p><p>series of Ventetian copper 1 soldo coins, that was the only one I saw where the</p><p><br /></p><p>Numista image had the same irregularity.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know how consistent the</p><p>manufacture was for coins this old.&nbsp; Mine has the text around 1:00 half off the</p><p>flan, but the full text is visible on the left.&nbsp; The &quot;S&quot; of &quot;DEFENS&quot; seems to be</p><p>missing entirely though, with no room between the N and the head of Jesus.</p><p>I imagine many of these old coins from the 1600s have lots of different minor</p><p>variations of the coin text, some of them not differentiated in catalogs.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1195987[/ATTACH]</p><p>comparison: mine is on the left</p><p><br /></p><p>edit:&nbsp; Never mind--I see that the Doge&#039;s name is on the obverse ending</p><p>at around the 4:00 position.&nbsp; Mine has &quot;ERI&quot; at that point (maybe &quot;ENI&quot;)</p><p>which would only be <a href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces91046.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces91046.html" rel="nofollow">Francesco Erizzo</a> (ERI) or <a href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces116100.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces116100.html" rel="nofollow">Alvise Mocenigo</a> II (ENI).</p><p>I think it looks more like &quot;ERI&quot; so in spite of some minor differences from</p><p>the variant pictured, I&#039;m going to guess it is Francesco Erizzo, 1641-46,</p><p>2.04 g billon, 21 mm.&nbsp; Mine is about 0.3 g light, and the diameter is low by</p><p>1-2 mm, which could be from wear or clipping.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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