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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Evan8, post: 4329821, member: 74343&quot;][USER=104599]@Hunting Rare[/USER] let&#039;s have a little talk. I&#039;m going to post a 1910 Lincoln cent that I purchased in an NGC slab graded MS65. This coin exhibited <b>all </b>the markers to be a real Matte Proof. Markers that are die striations, gouges, even an indentation beneath the second 1 of the date where the 0 from 1909 had been removed from the hub and turned into 1910. Here are some pictures:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1098665[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1098666[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Die Gouge at E in WE</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1098667[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Die Scratch under M in UNUM</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1098669[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I was fairly convinced this was a misattributed matte proof. With the help of a forum member [USER=19094]@robec[/USER] I was able to see the markers for a 1910 matte proof. I even emailed NGC with pictures saying that they might have misattributed this coin, this was their response.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1098670[/ATTACH]</p><p>This is a very important email. The topic of retired matte proof dies being used to strike business strikes has been debatable.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now for kicks. I cracked it out of the NGC slab.</p><p>This is the edge.[ATTACH=full]1098671[/ATTACH]</p><p>It is hard to see in this pic but the edge is even reflective, like that of a proof.</p><p><br /></p><p>I then sent this 1910 to PCGS, raw, as a matte proof. They sent it back as an MS64. Not a proof once again. You see, these coins are very hard to differentiate between business strikes and proofs. The last factor comes down to a term called &quot;coiner&#039;s intent&quot; where based on strike and a little eye appeal, we must determine if a coin with all the markers but yet no strong strike that would have been carried out in the medals room of the Philadelphia Mint. And that is where it all comes down to.&nbsp; Not the dies, but was it struck in the working floor of the Philadelphia mint or the medals room with a slower working press.</p><p><br /></p><p>Can OP answer definitively and say that their coin was minted in the medals room of the Philadelphia Mint? Probably not.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is my real 1910 matte proof undergraded PF62 by ANACS.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1098675[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1098677[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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