Loss to and Victory Over the Persians

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  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    My probable last two purchases for for 2020 arrived today. I bought them both from Ken Dorney's recent auction.
    I didn't buy them with the thought of them having a commonality but I just realized that they did!

    First up is an antoninianus of Valerian I with a Victory reverse. Kind of funny since he was the first Roman emperor to be captured in battle at the Battle of Edessa by the Persian Emperor Shapur I. He eventually died in captivity.

    Valerian I
    253-260 AD
    AR Antoninianus
    Obverse: IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS PF AVG, radiate, draped bust right
    Reverse: VICTORIA AVGG, Victory standing left resting on shield and holding palm
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    The second coin is a decanummium of Maurice Tiberius who was victorious against the Sasanian Persians in the Byzantine-Persian War from 572-591.

    Maurice Tiberius
    582-602 AD
    AE Decanummium
    Antioch
    Obverse: DN MAV CN P AV, crowned and mantled bust facing, wearing trefoil crown, holding mappa and eagle-tipped sceptre
    Reverse: Large I, A to left, cross above, regnal year to right, mintmark THEUP
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    Let's see some of your Valerian I, Maurice Tiberius, or anything that fits in with the theme of commonality through the ages. Thanks for looking!
     
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  3. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    My only Valerian as of now, albeit not the prettiest. Regardless, I guess that's what $6.50 gets you when it comes to ancient coins.

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    Valerian I
    AR Antoninianus
    253-255 A.D.
    Obverse: IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS P F AVG, radiate, draped bust right.
    Reverse: FELICITAS AVGG, Felicitas standing left holding caduceus and cornucopiae.
    Diameter: 21.3mm
    Weight: 3.71 gr.
    RIC 87,Cohen 55; Sear 9936.
     
  4. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    I have this Valerian antoninianus featuring Sol and the text Oriens Augg, meaning victory in the East, but we all know what happened to him when he went to the East the last time.
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  5. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Nice new pickups. Here is a Valerian with a Fides Militum reverse (they spelled it “MLITVM” here...probably not a great sign).
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  6. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Small world. I sold that coin to a person in Texas in 2016. Here was my photo of it.
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  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Holy cow! How cool is that?? This guy has made it around. He now has a home in Maryland and I don't plan on him leaving any time soon.
     
  8. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    Galerius was hugely successful against the Persians leading a massive invasion of their empire and laying waste to Ctesiphon. The Persians would finally learn their lesson and fortify their capital greatly making it quite difficult for Constantius, Julian, Anastasius, Justinian, Maurice and Heraclius to take the city. At the very least Maurice led campaigns into Persia in offense. Heraclius only led campaigns deep into Persia after the Persians have already done their damage and captured key Roman cities in the East.

    Galerius
    AE Follis
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    308 A.D., Alexandria Mint, 1st Officina
    6.81g, 24.0mm, 12H

    Obverse: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS P F AVG,
    Laureate head right

    Reverse: GENIO IMPE-RATORIS,
    Genius standing left, holding patera in right hand with liquid flowing from it, cornucopia in left

    Exergue: P/(A over R)//ALE

    Provenance: Ex. Ancient & Medieval Coins Canada Auction 1, Lot 265, Ex. Severus Alexander Collection, Ex. Dattari Collection

    Reference: RIC VI Alexandria 72

    Maurice Tiberius
    AE Follis
    [​IMG]
    595 - 596 A.D., Antioch Mint, 1st Officina
    11.40g, 31.0mm, 6H

    Obverse: D N MAVΓI CN P AVT,
    Bust facing, crown with trefoil ornament, consular robes, mappa in right, eagle tipped scepter in left

    Reverse: -,
    Large M between A/N/N/O and X/IIII (R.Y. 14), cross above, A below

    Exergue: τHⲈUP'

    Provenance: Ex. Arnoldoe Collection, Ex. JAZ Numismatics Auction 114 Lot 9

    Reference: SBCV 533
     
  9. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..purdy nice Valerian l..lots of silver AND provenance too!..and not a bad Maurice Tiberius either..good job FF02..:)...Valerian l was the 1st coin i purchased in 2020..here's my 'silverwash' antoninianus of'em along with Maurice T. silverwash Valerian antonianus 002.JPG silverwash Valerian antonianus 003.JPG kids        Maurice tiberius 003.JPG kids        Maurice tiberius 004.JPG
     
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  10. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I only have one other Valerian I that came out of a bunch of uncleaned coins when FFIVN and I started. It is pretty ugly so I'm happy with this upgrade :)
     
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  11. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    A Valerian having--thankfully, from the family's perspective--nothing to do with Persia:
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    Silver Double Denarius
    Antioch mint, A.D. 253
    Obv: IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG
    Rev: PIETAS AVGG - Two emperors, emperor at left sacrificing at altar with patera, emperor at right, sword on belt, holding eagle-tipped scepter
    RIC 284
    24 x 22 mm, 3.5g.
     
  12. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    F.F. Congrats on your two recent scores :D! What a stroke of luck that David Sear spotted your coin :jawdrop:! That will enhance the pedigree of your coin ;). I only have one coin left of Valerian that's been posted a number of times, but will add it to your thread since it is an attractive coin.

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  13. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

  14. Claudius_Gothicus

    Claudius_Gothicus Well-Known Member

    I have a coin of Valerian and one of his nephew with somewhat ironic reverses, considering what happened:
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    Valerian I (253-260), Antoninianus, Colonia mint
    Obverse: IMP VALERIANVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, seen from the front;
    Reverse: SECVRIT PERPET, Securitas standing left, leaning on column and holding sceptre;
    RIC 256

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    Valerian II (255-258), Antoninianus, Samosata mint
    Obverse: P LIC COR VALERIANVS CAES, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, seen from behind;
    Reverse: VICTORIA PART, Victory standing right, presenting wreath to Valerian II, holding spear;
    RIC 54
    (This coin has some encrustations, but I don't think I would be capable of removing them without also damaging the coin)
     
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  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Valerian, followed by the usurper Macrianus who negotiated, with his father Macrianus Senior, terms of peace with the Persians after Valerian was captured. They also were in charge of the billon supply to strike coins. Followed by a very green (uncleaned hoard) coin of Maurice Tiberius.


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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice coins, @furryfrog02 !

    I do not have any Maurice Tiberius, but I do have one from each of the opposing sides:

    VALERIAN I

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    RI Valerian I 253-260 CE AR Ant Felicitas stndg Caduceus and Cornucopia


    SHAPUR I

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    Sasanian Shapur I 240-272 CE AE Tetradrachm 10.78g 27mm Ctesiphon mint phase 1a mural crown korymbos - fire altar type 2 SNS IIa1-1a
     
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  17. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Cool! I don't have a Shapur I. Or II or III or however many others there were :p
     
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  18. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Shapur I presided over an empire that for the most part was highly effective at defeating the Romans, starting with the time of Gordian III and on to their greatest victories over Valerian. Until Odenathus showed up (followed by Aurelian) on the scene he caused Rome a lot of problems.
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Get one! I got mine because everyone talks about Valerian and his loss... I wanted to get one from the guy who WON that battle! I always see Parthian SILVER, so when I ran across a Parthian AE, I really wanted it. :)
     
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  20. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    i like that coin too! :)..
     
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