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<p>[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 2940176, member: 10461"]<font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><b>Summary of changes, December 20, 2017</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">Here's what's happened since <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lord-marcovans-eclectic-box-collection-as-of-november-4-2017.305377/#post-2897779" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lord-marcovans-eclectic-box-collection-as-of-november-4-2017.305377/#post-2897779">the last update</a>.</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><span style="color: #ff0000"><b>(A goodbye) <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></b></span></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">First, I bid a bittersweet farewell to one of my favorites. This </font></font><b><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">Anglo-Saxon penny of Aethelred II</font></font></b><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"> ("the Unready") was one of my top coins. It took 19 years to persuade my old friend Michael S. (who goes by the username [USER=81808]@Aethelred[/USER]) to sell this to me (frankly, I was surprised he ever did). I proudly owned it for four years (and got it into the MS plastic it deserved). But he eventually decided he wanted it back, and since it was once </font></font><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/i-am-aethelred-this-is-why.305834/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/i-am-aethelred-this-is-why.305834/"><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">his signature, "namesake" coin</font></font></a><font face="Georgia"> <font size="3">(not to mention the fact I owed him money)</font><font size="5">, I let him have it back. Not without some seller's remorse, but at least it's back where it belongs </font><font size="3">(and I don't owe him money anymore- at least for the<i> moment</i>- haha). </font><font size="5">And if he ever sells it again, he knows who's got first dibs on it.</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><b><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/england-anglo-saxon-silver-penny-of-aethelred-ii-struck-ca-997-1003-ad.286616/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/england-anglo-saxon-silver-penny-of-aethelred-ii-struck-ca-997-1003-ad.286616/">England (Anglo-Saxon): silver penny of Aethelred II, struck ca. 997-1003 AD</a></b></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/media/england-anglo-saxon-silver-penny-of-aethelred-ii-struck-ca-997-1003-ad.5048/full?d=1482835278" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">(<a href="https://www.pcgs.com/Cert/29851544/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/Cert/29851544/" rel="nofollow">PCGS MS63</a>; population 2 with 6 higher as of 12/20/2017)</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><b><font size="5"><font face="Georgia"><span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 89)">(A hello) <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></font></font></b></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">Next, I added this <b>1550 Lithuanian half-groschen</b> piece, after <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/time-for-another-poll-help-me-pick-the-next-eclectic-box-newp-again-lithuania-this-time.306663/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/time-for-another-poll-help-me-pick-the-next-eclectic-box-newp-again-lithuania-this-time.306663/">soliciting the opinions of the forum in a poll</a>. That was fun; I think I'll do that more often. I even followed the advice of the poll this time, opting for this PCGS MS63 over a PCGS MS64 that cost about $100 more but was not really all that different. I owned an <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/poland-lithuania-ar-halfgros-1550-009808-jpg.707487/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/poland-lithuania-ar-halfgros-1550-009808-jpg.707487/">NGC AU58</a> of the same type and year early on in the history of this Eclectic Box collection. I've always liked these- they're among the more affordable early-dated coins, even in Mint State like this. This coin has some subtle but attractive luster not seen in these photos.</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><b>Lithuania: silver half-groschen of Sigismund II Augustus of Poland, 1550 </b></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><b><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/poland-lithuania-half-groschen-1550-jpg.715890/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></b></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">(<a href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert/83818887" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert/83818887" rel="nofollow">PCGS MS63</a>; population 5 with 8 higher as of 12/20/2017)</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><b><span style="color: #00b359">(Another hello) </span><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></b></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">I also added this <b>1650 German States (Nurnberg) 1/8 thaler klippe</b>, which is likely to be my last <i>major</i> purchase for 2017. It just arrived from [USER=28531]@H8_modern[/USER], who discussed it <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/just-for-fun-guess-the-dealers-offer.306833/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/just-for-fun-guess-the-dealers-offer.306833/">here</a>. This is such a fresh "newp" that I don't even have temporary "shadowbox" pictures of it yet, which is why it is not in the lineup above. It will likely go to PCGS in January.</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">This is a commemorative issue struck to celebrate the Peace of Westphalia at the end of the Thirty Years War. I have long loved the motif of the little boy on the stick horse, and [USER=39]@chrisild[/USER] was kind enough to share <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/poll-vote-for-the-next-potential-lordm-eclectic-box-newp-and-likely-last-purchase-of-2017.307339/page-2#post-2937152" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/poll-vote-for-the-next-potential-lordm-eclectic-box-newp-and-likely-last-purchase-of-2017.307339/page-2#post-2937152">the story behind that.</a> I used to have one of these on my old "Holey Coin Vest". It was <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/hcv-germany-nurnberg-silverducatklippe-1650-jpg.714407/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/hcv-germany-nurnberg-silverducatklippe-1650-jpg.714407/">one of my favorite holed coins</a>. Now I am happy to own an even higher-grade, <i>un</i>holed example.</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/pz91eb-jpg.714394/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/iiyz3r-jpg.714396/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><b><span style="color: #00b359">(Just graded) <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></b></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">Finally, I just received the happy news that my <b>AH1233 (1817) Persian gold toman</b> not only received a "straight" grade from PCGS, it went<i> Mint State</i> as well! I was expecting a high AU grade, though I had an inkling that MS could be possible. <a href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert/34401230" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert/34401230" rel="nofollow">It just graded MS62</a>. That makes it worth over $500, and I paid $400 for this one. It is also now a pop. 3/0 coin, meaning it is tied with just two other examples for the finest graded. I'm happy. </font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">As of this post, the TrueView images have not been added to the cert verification page just yet (but should be, within the next 24-48 hours), so I'm still using the temporary (seller's) images here and in the lineup above. </font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><b>Iran (Persia): gold toman of Fath Ali Shah, AH 1233 (1817), Yazd mint</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><b><img src="https://collectivecoin.imgix.net/XK8cB2rmTu2FAibex8wQ_Persian_gold.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></b></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">(<a href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert/34401230" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert/34401230" rel="nofollow">PCGS MS62</a>; population 3 with none higher as of 12/20/2017)</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><span style="color: #00b359"><b>(An additional hello) <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></b></span></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">Also, this <b>ca. 238 AD Roman antoninianus of Gordian III</b> was a kind gift from [USER=80147]@Ancient Aussie[/USER] in the Ancient forum's <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/and-a-sanguine-saturnalia-to-all.307526/#post-2937263" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/and-a-sanguine-saturnalia-to-all.307526/#post-2937263">"Secret Saturnalia" gift exchange</a> (think "Secret Santa", but with ancients only).</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">I don't know if I'll include it in the Eclectic Box. Maybe, maybe not. I'm kind of light on Roman material as of this post. Regardless, I'm enjoying it and have kept it on my bedside table to look at over the last few days. If it doesn't offend the donor, I <i>might </i>someday pass it forward in a future giveaway of my own later. But not yet. I intend to enjoy it a while longer, whether it becomes a part of the Eclectic Box or not.</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">Please forgive the hasty cellphone shots.</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/20171217_090403-jpg.714545/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/20171217_090206-jpg.714546/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><font face="Georgia"><span style="color: #0000ff"><font size="5"><b>(A potential addition) <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie102" alt=":writer:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></b></font></span></font></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">I might squeeze one more in before the end of the year, if money allows. This one was the popular favorite in <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/poll-vote-for-the-next-potential-lordm-eclectic-box-newp-and-likely-last-purchase-of-2017.307339/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/poll-vote-for-the-next-potential-lordm-eclectic-box-newp-and-likely-last-purchase-of-2017.307339/">my last "newp" poll</a>. Though I ended up going with the Nurnberg klippe above rather than any of the three contenders in the poll, this one still might happen. It's a high grade 17th century coin with some killer toning, for slightly under a hundred bucks, so I'm still tempted.</font></font></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><b>German States (Pomerania-Stettin): silver doppelschilling of Bogislaw XIV, undated, ca. 1620-1625.</b></font></font></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/german-states-pomerania-stettin-ca-1620-1625-jpg.712917/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></font></font></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">Oh-</font></font><b><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"> <span style="color: #ff0000">one other bit of housekeeping</span></font></font></b><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">- in the last update I mentioned how I intended to give each coin its own writeup (subthread), since I've been lax on that for the past year. That still hasn't been done yet. I'll have to make that a 2018 new year's resolution.</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"></font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 2940176, member: 10461"][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5][B]Summary of changes, December 20, 2017[/B] Here's what's happened since [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lord-marcovans-eclectic-box-collection-as-of-november-4-2017.305377/#post-2897779']the last update[/URL]. [COLOR=#ff0000][B](A goodbye) :([/B][/COLOR] First, I bid a bittersweet farewell to one of my favorites. This [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5]Anglo-Saxon penny of Aethelred II[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5] ("the Unready") was one of my top coins. It took 19 years to persuade my old friend Michael S. (who goes by the username [USER=81808]@Aethelred[/USER]) to sell this to me (frankly, I was surprised he ever did). I proudly owned it for four years (and got it into the MS plastic it deserved). But he eventually decided he wanted it back, and since it was once [/SIZE][/FONT][URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/i-am-aethelred-this-is-why.305834/'][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5]his signature, "namesake" coin[/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][FONT=Georgia] [SIZE=3](not to mention the fact I owed him money)[/SIZE][SIZE=5], I let him have it back. Not without some seller's remorse, but at least it's back where it belongs [/SIZE][SIZE=3](and I don't owe him money anymore- at least for the[I] moment[/I]- haha). [/SIZE][SIZE=5]And if he ever sells it again, he knows who's got first dibs on it.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5][B][URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/england-anglo-saxon-silver-penny-of-aethelred-ii-struck-ca-997-1003-ad.286616/']England (Anglo-Saxon): silver penny of Aethelred II, struck ca. 997-1003 AD[/URL][/B] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/media/england-anglo-saxon-silver-penny-of-aethelred-ii-struck-ca-997-1003-ad.5048/full?d=1482835278[/IMG] ([URL='https://www.pcgs.com/Cert/29851544/']PCGS MS63[/URL]; population 2 with 6 higher as of 12/20/2017) [/SIZE][/FONT] [B][SIZE=5][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=rgb(0, 179, 89)](A hello) :)[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5]Next, I added this [B]1550 Lithuanian half-groschen[/B] piece, after [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/time-for-another-poll-help-me-pick-the-next-eclectic-box-newp-again-lithuania-this-time.306663/']soliciting the opinions of the forum in a poll[/URL]. That was fun; I think I'll do that more often. I even followed the advice of the poll this time, opting for this PCGS MS63 over a PCGS MS64 that cost about $100 more but was not really all that different. I owned an [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/poland-lithuania-ar-halfgros-1550-009808-jpg.707487/']NGC AU58[/URL] of the same type and year early on in the history of this Eclectic Box collection. I've always liked these- they're among the more affordable early-dated coins, even in Mint State like this. This coin has some subtle but attractive luster not seen in these photos. [B]Lithuania: silver half-groschen of Sigismund II Augustus of Poland, 1550 [/B] [B][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/poland-lithuania-half-groschen-1550-jpg.715890/[/IMG][/B] ([URL='https://www.pcgs.com/cert/83818887']PCGS MS63[/URL]; population 5 with 8 higher as of 12/20/2017) [B][COLOR=#00b359](Another hello) [/COLOR]:)[/B] I also added this [B]1650 German States (Nurnberg) 1/8 thaler klippe[/B], which is likely to be my last [I]major[/I] purchase for 2017. It just arrived from [USER=28531]@H8_modern[/USER], who discussed it [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/just-for-fun-guess-the-dealers-offer.306833/']here[/URL]. This is such a fresh "newp" that I don't even have temporary "shadowbox" pictures of it yet, which is why it is not in the lineup above. It will likely go to PCGS in January. This is a commemorative issue struck to celebrate the Peace of Westphalia at the end of the Thirty Years War. I have long loved the motif of the little boy on the stick horse, and [USER=39]@chrisild[/USER] was kind enough to share [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/poll-vote-for-the-next-potential-lordm-eclectic-box-newp-and-likely-last-purchase-of-2017.307339/page-2#post-2937152']the story behind that.[/URL] I used to have one of these on my old "Holey Coin Vest". It was [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/hcv-germany-nurnberg-silverducatklippe-1650-jpg.714407/']one of my favorite holed coins[/URL]. Now I am happy to own an even higher-grade, [I]un[/I]holed example. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/pz91eb-jpg.714394/[/IMG][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/iiyz3r-jpg.714396/[/IMG][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5][B][COLOR=#00b359](Just graded) :)[/COLOR][/B] Finally, I just received the happy news that my [B]AH1233 (1817) Persian gold toman[/B] not only received a "straight" grade from PCGS, it went[I] Mint State[/I] as well! I was expecting a high AU grade, though I had an inkling that MS could be possible. [URL='https://www.pcgs.com/cert/34401230']It just graded MS62[/URL]. That makes it worth over $500, and I paid $400 for this one. It is also now a pop. 3/0 coin, meaning it is tied with just two other examples for the finest graded. I'm happy. As of this post, the TrueView images have not been added to the cert verification page just yet (but should be, within the next 24-48 hours), so I'm still using the temporary (seller's) images here and in the lineup above. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5][B]Iran (Persia): gold toman of Fath Ali Shah, AH 1233 (1817), Yazd mint[/B] [B][IMG]https://collectivecoin.imgix.net/XK8cB2rmTu2FAibex8wQ_Persian_gold.jpg[/IMG][/B] ([URL='https://www.pcgs.com/cert/34401230']PCGS MS62[/URL]; population 3 with none higher as of 12/20/2017)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5][COLOR=#00b359][B](An additional hello) :)[/B][/COLOR] Also, this [B]ca. 238 AD Roman antoninianus of Gordian III[/B] was a kind gift from [USER=80147]@Ancient Aussie[/USER] in the Ancient forum's [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/and-a-sanguine-saturnalia-to-all.307526/#post-2937263']"Secret Saturnalia" gift exchange[/URL] (think "Secret Santa", but with ancients only). I don't know if I'll include it in the Eclectic Box. Maybe, maybe not. I'm kind of light on Roman material as of this post. Regardless, I'm enjoying it and have kept it on my bedside table to look at over the last few days. If it doesn't offend the donor, I [I]might [/I]someday pass it forward in a future giveaway of my own later. But not yet. I intend to enjoy it a while longer, whether it becomes a part of the Eclectic Box or not. Please forgive the hasty cellphone shots. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/20171217_090403-jpg.714545/[/IMG][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/20171217_090206-jpg.714546/[/IMG] [FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=5][B](A potential addition) :writer:[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR] [SIZE=5]I might squeeze one more in before the end of the year, if money allows. This one was the popular favorite in [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/poll-vote-for-the-next-potential-lordm-eclectic-box-newp-and-likely-last-purchase-of-2017.307339/']my last "newp" poll[/URL]. Though I ended up going with the Nurnberg klippe above rather than any of the three contenders in the poll, this one still might happen. It's a high grade 17th century coin with some killer toning, for slightly under a hundred bucks, so I'm still tempted. [B]German States (Pomerania-Stettin): silver doppelschilling of Bogislaw XIV, undated, ca. 1620-1625.[/B] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/german-states-pomerania-stettin-ca-1620-1625-jpg.712917/[/IMG][/SIZE][/FONT] Oh-[/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5] [COLOR=#ff0000]one other bit of housekeeping[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5]- in the last update I mentioned how I intended to give each coin its own writeup (subthread), since I've been lax on that for the past year. That still hasn't been done yet. I'll have to make that a 2018 new year's resolution. [/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]
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