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<p>[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2233101, member: 1892"]If you ever shot a coin in bright sunlight or a medium-large spotlight, you'd be changing your tune on the apparent depth of the devices.</p><p><br /></p><p>The 1846 is consistent with others on record, to include the irregularities on the lower left loop of the 8, the spindly 4 with the trumpet serif, and perhaps most importantly the die crack starting above the D and running through STA. Die cracks are not easy to counterfeit, or sandcast.</p><p><br /></p><p>The 1864-S is consistent with WB-101, the last use of the Large S and Type One reverse. To include the fact that the mint mark is at lesser relief than the surrounding devices. The noticeably thicker serifs on the 1 than the 4 are also typical. This, of course, does not prove originality.</p><p><br /></p><p>My most important point here is, if you're going to joust with the scammers on Ebay, load the gun before you pull the trigger. A strong circumstantial case can be made for the genuine status of both of these coins, by simply <i>knowing what they should look like</i>. Here with a little issue-specific knowledge you can instantly exclude any counterfeit which wasn't created from an original coin, at least. Took me about 10 minutes to learn all that stuff above - no, I didn't know it beforehand - by checking the Seated Half book at DLRC, and looking at a few coins on Heritage. And if you're going to judge based on features which can be directly attributed to the imaging process, you have to know the imaging process. Learning that took me a decade.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you're gonna do this, <b>be right</b>. I don't know if there's enough evidence here to go off and try to get auctions pulled. Frankly, I think they're real, and understand the seller's anger.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2233101, member: 1892"]If you ever shot a coin in bright sunlight or a medium-large spotlight, you'd be changing your tune on the apparent depth of the devices. The 1846 is consistent with others on record, to include the irregularities on the lower left loop of the 8, the spindly 4 with the trumpet serif, and perhaps most importantly the die crack starting above the D and running through STA. Die cracks are not easy to counterfeit, or sandcast. The 1864-S is consistent with WB-101, the last use of the Large S and Type One reverse. To include the fact that the mint mark is at lesser relief than the surrounding devices. The noticeably thicker serifs on the 1 than the 4 are also typical. This, of course, does not prove originality. My most important point here is, if you're going to joust with the scammers on Ebay, load the gun before you pull the trigger. A strong circumstantial case can be made for the genuine status of both of these coins, by simply [I]knowing what they should look like[/I]. Here with a little issue-specific knowledge you can instantly exclude any counterfeit which wasn't created from an original coin, at least. Took me about 10 minutes to learn all that stuff above - no, I didn't know it beforehand - by checking the Seated Half book at DLRC, and looking at a few coins on Heritage. And if you're going to judge based on features which can be directly attributed to the imaging process, you have to know the imaging process. Learning that took me a decade. If you're gonna do this, [B]be right[/B]. I don't know if there's enough evidence here to go off and try to get auctions pulled. Frankly, I think they're real, and understand the seller's anger.[/QUOTE]
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