Looks like a boy

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  1. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Congratulations! That is thrilling! Give our regards to your wife, who did the hard work.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Philip II was six when his father became Emperor and named his son Caesar, This coin was struck when Philip II was seven years old.
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    PHILIP II
    AR Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: M IVL PHILIPPVS CAES, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: PRINCIPI IVVENT - Philip II standing right, holding spear and globe
    Struck at Rome, 245 AD
    5.1g, 22.5mm
    RIC 216c (Philip I), C 54
     
  4. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    It's interesting how very different the portraits on the obverse dies look on our two examples of this coin.
     
  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper


    What a beautiful baby. My baby daughter just turned 20 on the 29th. She is a leap baby.
     
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  6. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Methinks many of these coins were struck. I've seen a wide variety of portraits of the kid. Just check out vcoins or m-a shops.
     
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  7. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Congrats on the little one, @David@PCC !

    Here’s one of Geta at around age 12.

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    Geta, as Caesar, AR Denarius (19 mm, 3.23 g), Rome, 200-202. Bare-headed and draped bust of Geta to right/ Rev. PRINC IVVENTVTIS, Geta, as prince of the youth, standing left in military attire, holding baton in his right hand and spear with his left; behind, trophy. RIC 18.
     
  8. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Congratulations @David@PCC! What an amazing blessing.
    My wife and I already had a boy and said we would try twice more to have a daughter. Well, you guessed it, on the second try we had twin boys. I cashed in my chips, having won or lost at the game of life, depending on the gender you prefer.
    My twin boys (2 now) wearing suspiciously similar beanies as your new baby girl (hospital issue)!
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    Oh, and to keep it legit:
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  9. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    "Looks like a boy" took an unexpected twist....Congrats on your beautiful baby daughter, @David@PCC! and handsome twins @Ryro... Here's a Severan youngster for @Valentinian's opening theme - wearing oversized shirt...:
    Geta Victory Denarius.jpg
    Geta, as Caesar, AR Denarius, AD 200-202
    Obv: P SEPT CAES PONT, bare-headed, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev: VICT AETERN, Victory flying left, holding in both hands, an open wreath over a shield on a low base
     
  10. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    Here's a young portrait....
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    Licinius II (320 ad)Follis.Siscia 3.00gr 20mm dia.
    Obv.LICINIVS IVN NOB C.(Laureate head right)
    Rev.CAESARVM NOSTRORVM (Wreath inscribed VOT.V
    Mintmark (delta)SIS(star)
    RIC VII Siscia #162 (Rated scarce)
     
  11. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Arcadius as a little squirt:
    Arcadius4.jpg
    AE4 votive from Antioch
     
  12. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coins all! And congrats @david!

    My babies aren't so much babies anymore - 6 and 4 years old, but I remember the trips home from the hospital like it was yesterday.

    Some little tykes on coins...

    Gaius (died at 23) probably started appearing on coins around age 14-15 Gaius Caesar Hierapolis phrygia Lynkeus.jpg

    Ditto with younger brother Lucius (died at age 18)
    Lucius Caesar antioch ad meandrum.jpg

    Tiberius Gemellus, the last descendant of Tiberius was adopted by Tiberius as a teenager, and was forced to kill himself at age 18 after being accused of poisoning Caligula
    Tiberius gemellus AE philadelphia lydia.jpg

    Britannacus caesar, here about 10-12 years old; he was poisoned by Nero before he turned 14 and could legally present his claim for the Principate
    Britannicus caesar Ionia Smyrna.jpg

    Here's 19 year old Nero with his 17 year old wife Octavia
    Nero Octavia tet Alexandria.jpg

    I have no idea how to date the issues of Faustina II as Pia Filia, but she got married at 15 and looks it in this coin
    Faustina ii pia felix concordia.jpg

    Baby face Marcus Aurelius, aged about 22?
    Marcus aurelius caesar cos des ii.jpg

    Commodus and Annius Verus - Both boys are under 10, and Annius died at age 7 following complications from a surgery
    Commodus and Annius Verus .jpg

    Commodus as Caesar, aged about 15
    Commodus caesar spes pvblica.jpg

    Per @dougsmit's question, I suspect that Lucilla was probably the youngest woman to appear on coinage as Augustus Filia, as she was betrothed to Verus at age 11 and received the title of Augusta upon her marriage at age 14... I don't think there are any other women who appear before age 13-14?
    Lucilla denarius concordia.jpg
     
  13. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Severans had a lot of kids with a lot of power...

    Caracalla as Caesar, aged about 8-9?
    Caracalla Caesar denarius imper ii felicitas.jpg

    Geta as Caesar, not sure how old?
    Geta caesar denarius nobilitas.jpg

    Plautilla, married Caracalla at about 17
    Plautilla denarius pietas.jpg

    Diadumenian, aged about 9-10
    Diadumenian AE.jpg

    Beardless Elagabalus, age 17-18 Elagabalus denarius sol advancing.jpg

    Julia Paula, probably a teenager
    Julia Paula denarius concordia.jpg

    Aquilia Severa, also probably a teenager
    Julia Aquilia Severa denarius concordia.jpg

    Severus Alexander as Caesar, age 13
    Severus Alexander caesar priestly implements.jpg

    Orbiana, about 16-18
    Orbiana denarius concordia.jpg

    Gordian III as Caesar, age 13
    Gordian III Caesar sestertius priestly implements.jpg
     
  14. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    First of all, to celebrate the twins of @Ryro :

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    I'm not sure if we've had Hostilian? We don't know his year of birth, but it is "probably the late 230s" according to David Sear. He looks like a boy on his portrait, at least:

    Sear 9561 Hostilian - Caesar 250-51.jpg
     
  15. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Cool! That looks like the "Laodicea" mint version of that coin (RIC 101; BMCRE 724). Compare it to the British Museum specimen:

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    I only have the Rome mint version:

    Geta VICT AETERN denarius.jpg
    Geta, Caesar AD 198-209.
    Roman AR denarius, 3.43 g, 19.4 mm.
    Rome, AD 199-204.
    Obv: P SEPT GETA CAES PONT, bare-headed, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: VICT AETERN, Victory advancing left, holding open wreath in both hands over oval shield set on base.
    Refs: RIC 23; BMCRE 247-48; Cohen/RSC 206; RCV 7205; Hill 458.
     
  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    SANITY CHECK: Are you getting any sleep?
     
  17. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Sure I still get 2 or 3 hours :yawn:
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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    :D Enjoy those 2-3 hrs. I went through 6 of them. Does not matter the age, they will ALL keep you up at night!
     
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  19. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi All,

    Per Wikipedia, Ptolemy V was born 9 October 210 BCE and inherited the throne at the age of five in 204 BCE, when his parents died in suspicious circumstances, possibly poisoned. This coin was minted sometime during the Fifth Syrian War (202-196 BCE), when Ptolemy V would have been between the ages of 8 and 14. For more details on Ptolemy V see the Wikipedia entry at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemy_V_Epiphanes .

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    PTOLEMY V EPIPHANES (205/204-180 BCE)
    PHOENICIA, DORA, Fifth Syrian War Coinage

    AR STATER (TETRADRACHM)
    Size:
    24x25 mm
    Weight: 12.58 g
    Die Axis: 0
    Dies: A21/P02 [Die information comes from Carlen & Lorber "The Fifth Syrian War portrait coinage. A die study" (RNB vol CLXV, 2019). THIS coin listed for DORA, page 214, #4.]

    OBV: Ptolemy V portrait bust diademmed and wearing chlamys, facing right, barley ear on diadem. Dotted border.
    REV: Εagle on thunderbolt facing left, wings closed. Legend: ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙOY ΒΑΣΙΛ[ΕΩΣ]. In left field: ΔΩ. Dotted border.

    Refs: Svoronos 1262, pl xli, 23 [4 listed]; SNG Copenhagen Suppl. 1294; Mørkholm, "Some coins of Ptolemy V from Palestine" in INJ 5 (1981), 9 (dies A3/P7) [9 listed]. Early Hellenistic Coinage 320.
    Hoards: There were 4 in Syria, 1981 (CH VII, 90 = CH VIII, 339 = EH I, 105), Meadows 850-853.

    Notes: Reverse die flaw at 11:00 position above Delta. Triton XII, 390 (same dies, no flaw on reverse). Same reverse die as EH 1 105, The "Syria'' 1981 Hoard #851 (no flaw) and Morkholm (IJN 5 1981) #6.

    ex-CNG CLASSICAL NUMISMATIC GROUP, INC eAuction 411, Lot #250

    - Broucheion
     
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  20. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    I guess every couple of months this thread should be revisited to "Like" the OP (I missed it the first time), add a relevant youthful portrait and check in to see if @David@PCC is sleeping much. Here's another Geta @ 14 or 15 years old from Loadicea and @3.44g heavy outlier.
    Geta Minev Sanct.jpg Geta, as Caesar, 198-209, AR denarius, Laodicea ad Mare, 203
    Obv: P SEPTIMIVS GETA CAES, bare-headed, draped and cuirassed bust of Geta to right
    Rev: MINERV SANCT Minerva, helmeted, standing front, her head turned to left, resting her right hand on a shield set on the ground and holding a reversed spear with her left
    Ref: RIC 105a
     
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  21. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Here is a Diadumenian tetradrachm from Antioch. He looks like a boy.

    Diadumenian4Antioch2073.jpg

    Son of Macrinus, 217-218, he was 9 or 10 during the reign.
    26-24 mm. 13.68 grams.
    KAIC M OΠЄΛ • ANTΩNINOC, bare-headed and curiassed bust right
    (Caesar Marcus Opellius ... )
    ΔHMAPX ЄΞ VΠATO around eagle, head and tail right, Δ and Є either side of neck
    Prier 248
     
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