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<p>[QUOTE="BigsWick, post: 327592, member: 3534"]Interesting how you define a "real" collector- someone who doesn't view coins as commodities- versus a speculator who hopes to some day turn a profit. I've always thought the line some people draw between what constitutes a collector and what makes one a speculator is arbitrary as worst and definitely blurry at best. It certainly smacks of a selectiveness I'm not so quick to embrace.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not referring to folks who buy tubes of ASEs and pray the price of silver goes up. They'd probably be just as happy with any other bullion/round that would meet their objectives, and have no use for ASEs as collectibles. However, I would submit that any collector who absolutely doesn't care about the value of their coin collection probably falls into one or more of the following categories:</p><p><br /></p><p>1) They have a small collection or one not worth much monetarily to begin with</p><p><br /></p><p>2) They inherited all or the bulk of a collection and therefore have little or nothing</p><p> invested in it</p><p><br /></p><p>3) They aren't very active in the hobby and/or completed most of their collection long ago</p><p><br /></p><p>4) They have too much money to be bothered by such trivial notions as making a profit while enjoying a hobby</p><p><br /></p><p>I have started sets of Kennedy Halves, Franklin Halves, Jefferson Nickels, Lincoln Cents, Mercury Dimes, etc. I nearly have the Kennedy set completed. All were pulled from circulation, less the '70 (I bought it) and 2 mid 1980s P mintmarks I haven't found yet. Do I care about the actual "value" of the completed set? No, I don't. I put it together because I wanted to tackle the challenge, and I'll feel like I completed something worthwhile to me when I'm finished. I could have easily just spent the $200 or $300 and bought a set, but that would have defeated the purpose. I've enjoyed doing it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Conversely, many years ago I decided to put together a set of CC Morgans, one of each year in circulated condition. I thought from a numismatic standpoint it would be something unique to have. I'm still lacking the more pricey coins for the set, but one day I hope to finish it. Now, if I do pony up an spend hundreds or perhaps thousands of dollars for the 1893-CC or 1891-CC, and those prices fall dramatically in say 2 or 3 years, do I now make the transition from collector to speculator because I'm bothered by the fact that I have potentially lost hundreds of dollars? What about all the folks who had that happen with the 1903-O Morgan?</p><p><br /></p><p>About 6 weeks or 2 months ago I bought 3 tubes of BU Peace dollars at about what then was melt value because I thought it was a good deal. Besides, I like Peace dollars, and I wanted to add to my collection. Now, does that make me any less of a collector, because one day I stand to turn a profit if I sell?</p><p><br /></p><p>I, like you, base my opinion on my own perceptions and the opinions of those in my immediate loop of coin collecting friends. I can say with certainty that all of them would feel some level of distress if the value of their collections dropped suddenly. I never try to paint with overly broad strokes, and I certainly don't claim to speak for everyone, but I do believe more collectors feel the same way than ones who do not. Again, just my opinion, based on 30 or so years in the hobby.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BigsWick, post: 327592, member: 3534"]Interesting how you define a "real" collector- someone who doesn't view coins as commodities- versus a speculator who hopes to some day turn a profit. I've always thought the line some people draw between what constitutes a collector and what makes one a speculator is arbitrary as worst and definitely blurry at best. It certainly smacks of a selectiveness I'm not so quick to embrace. I'm not referring to folks who buy tubes of ASEs and pray the price of silver goes up. They'd probably be just as happy with any other bullion/round that would meet their objectives, and have no use for ASEs as collectibles. However, I would submit that any collector who absolutely doesn't care about the value of their coin collection probably falls into one or more of the following categories: 1) They have a small collection or one not worth much monetarily to begin with 2) They inherited all or the bulk of a collection and therefore have little or nothing invested in it 3) They aren't very active in the hobby and/or completed most of their collection long ago 4) They have too much money to be bothered by such trivial notions as making a profit while enjoying a hobby I have started sets of Kennedy Halves, Franklin Halves, Jefferson Nickels, Lincoln Cents, Mercury Dimes, etc. I nearly have the Kennedy set completed. All were pulled from circulation, less the '70 (I bought it) and 2 mid 1980s P mintmarks I haven't found yet. Do I care about the actual "value" of the completed set? No, I don't. I put it together because I wanted to tackle the challenge, and I'll feel like I completed something worthwhile to me when I'm finished. I could have easily just spent the $200 or $300 and bought a set, but that would have defeated the purpose. I've enjoyed doing it. Conversely, many years ago I decided to put together a set of CC Morgans, one of each year in circulated condition. I thought from a numismatic standpoint it would be something unique to have. I'm still lacking the more pricey coins for the set, but one day I hope to finish it. Now, if I do pony up an spend hundreds or perhaps thousands of dollars for the 1893-CC or 1891-CC, and those prices fall dramatically in say 2 or 3 years, do I now make the transition from collector to speculator because I'm bothered by the fact that I have potentially lost hundreds of dollars? What about all the folks who had that happen with the 1903-O Morgan? About 6 weeks or 2 months ago I bought 3 tubes of BU Peace dollars at about what then was melt value because I thought it was a good deal. Besides, I like Peace dollars, and I wanted to add to my collection. Now, does that make me any less of a collector, because one day I stand to turn a profit if I sell? I, like you, base my opinion on my own perceptions and the opinions of those in my immediate loop of coin collecting friends. I can say with certainty that all of them would feel some level of distress if the value of their collections dropped suddenly. I never try to paint with overly broad strokes, and I certainly don't claim to speak for everyone, but I do believe more collectors feel the same way than ones who do not. Again, just my opinion, based on 30 or so years in the hobby.[/QUOTE]
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