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Message:: [QUOTE="johnmilton, post: 8123567, member: 101855"]I will have to do more research as to what the latest thinking is on these coins. When I was actively looking for one, the pieces that had the eagle flying level were all called "restrikes." The pieces that had the eagle flying "onward and upward," both metal turn and coin turn, were called "original.' The only one that I have nailed down is if the rotation is a coin turn, with the eagle flying "onward and upward," it is an 1836 original, die rotation #1. This piece, PCGS graded PR-62, CAC, is in my collection. [ATTACH=full]1414495[/ATTACH] Before I owned the above piece, I owned this one, which was NGC graded PR-60. [ATTACH=full]1414500[/ATTACH] It was my understanding that this piece is a restrike from the 1850s. Concern about how the eagle is flying has caused concern with these pieces. "Onward and upward" was good; flying level was bad. It didn't help that the "Red Book" gave the level flyers second class status with words like, "Not official coins." That led dealers and auctioneers to downplay the die rotation of the coins they were offering.[/QUOTE]