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<p>[QUOTE="Paul_NL, post: 4697454, member: 108102"]Hi, I'm a collector from the Netherlands (sorry for my english) and looking for some help.</p><p><br /></p><p>Last year I purchased a Hadrian denarius form Lanz Numismatik but I had difficulty finding out what type it exactly is. The obverse legend reads 'IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG' and the reverse 'P M TR P COS III', showing deity Felicitas, standing left, holding caduceus and cornucopia (<a href="https://munthunter.nl/download/file.php?id=21669&mode=view" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://munthunter.nl/download/file.php?id=21669&mode=view" rel="nofollow">see pictures</a>). No text in field or exergue. So I thought it must be a RIC II Hadrian 83. However all coins of this type show a bust of Hadrian with bare chest and traces of drapery on the far (left) shoulder. On my coin however, also the right shoulder is draped (or cuirassed?). </p><p><br /></p><p>Recently, the OCRE records of Hadrian have been updated. RIC II Hadrian 83 is now listed as RIC II, Part 3 (second edition) Hadrian 220-222 and it looks like the type I was looking for has been added as subtype no.222 since the obverse of this type is described as 'Bust of Hadrian, laureate, <b><i>cuirassed</i></b>, right, viewed from front'. Unfortunately there are no examples of this type on the OCRE site.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Am I right in thinking this coin is a RIC II, Part 3 (second edition) Hadrian 222? Or is it another type that I am overlooking? Does anyone have an example of a this 222 type?</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Apart from the above there are two other things on the coin that I noticed comparing it to other examples:</p><ol> <li>Felicitas is holding the caduceus quite horizontal compared to other examples (although I found a similar one on the internet: <a href="https://www.beastcoins.com/RomanImperial/II/Hadrian/Hadrian-RICII-83.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.beastcoins.com/RomanImperial/II/Hadrian/Hadrian-RICII-83.jpg" rel="nofollow">https://www.beastcoins.com/RomanImperial/II/Hadrian/Hadrian-RICII-83.jpg</a> )<br /> <br /> </li> <li>The position of the gap in the obverse legend (TRAIANH-ADRIANVS) seems peculiar. I haven't found it anywhere. Usually it seems to be TRAIAN-HADRIANVS.[ATTACH=full]1154302[/ATTACH]<br /> Thanks in advance<br /> Kind regards, <br /> Paul</li> </ol><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Paul_NL, post: 4697454, member: 108102"]Hi, I'm a collector from the Netherlands (sorry for my english) and looking for some help. Last year I purchased a Hadrian denarius form Lanz Numismatik but I had difficulty finding out what type it exactly is. The obverse legend reads 'IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG' and the reverse 'P M TR P COS III', showing deity Felicitas, standing left, holding caduceus and cornucopia ([URL='https://munthunter.nl/download/file.php?id=21669&mode=view']see pictures[/URL]). No text in field or exergue. So I thought it must be a RIC II Hadrian 83. However all coins of this type show a bust of Hadrian with bare chest and traces of drapery on the far (left) shoulder. On my coin however, also the right shoulder is draped (or cuirassed?). Recently, the OCRE records of Hadrian have been updated. RIC II Hadrian 83 is now listed as RIC II, Part 3 (second edition) Hadrian 220-222 and it looks like the type I was looking for has been added as subtype no.222 since the obverse of this type is described as 'Bust of Hadrian, laureate, [B][I]cuirassed[/I][/B], right, viewed from front'. Unfortunately there are no examples of this type on the OCRE site. [B]Am I right in thinking this coin is a RIC II, Part 3 (second edition) Hadrian 222? Or is it another type that I am overlooking? Does anyone have an example of a this 222 type?[/B] Apart from the above there are two other things on the coin that I noticed comparing it to other examples: [LIST=1] [*]Felicitas is holding the caduceus quite horizontal compared to other examples (although I found a similar one on the internet: [URL]https://www.beastcoins.com/RomanImperial/II/Hadrian/Hadrian-RICII-83.jpg[/URL] ) [*]The position of the gap in the obverse legend (TRAIANH-ADRIANVS) seems peculiar. I haven't found it anywhere. Usually it seems to be TRAIAN-HADRIANVS.[ATTACH=full]1154302[/ATTACH] Thanks in advance Kind regards, Paul [/LIST][/QUOTE]
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