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<p>[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 2617989, member: 39084"]Here are a few of my observations/experiences with auction houses regarding unsold lots.</p><p><br /></p><p>First, it seems to be standard practice for auction houses to offer unsold lots (post-auction) at the opening bid plus 15% (or whatever is their standard commission). I don't get this -- if someone wanted to pay opening bid plus commission, they would have done so during the auction -- but don't be taken aback if this is their initial response.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second, if you want to offer a lower-than-opening bid, you should certainly feel comfortable doing so. In the event that the auction house actually owns the coin, you might have a decent chance of reaching a mutually agreeable lower price. But if the consignor still owns the coin (very likely), the auction house will need to communicate your offer to the consignor and get a response from him/her. Even in this case, the auction house will still want a commission -- probably their standard commission -- and probably won't be very cooperative in negotiating on your behalf with the consignor. This varies -- German auction houses have a terrible reputation for being difficult to deal with -- but my limited experience indicates that this middleman type of negotiation can be arduous and unlikely to succeed.</p><p><br /></p><p>My specific advice is to make an offer that includes the commission you're willing to pay and be sure to tell the auction house that your offer includes whatever commission they might charge. But don't hold your breath. </p><p><br /></p><p>Assuming this approach fails to reach an agreement, just wait for the coin to show up in another auction.</p><p><br /></p><p>For a more detailed story about my specific experience in a similar situation, see my posting in this thread:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/hadrian-continues-his-travels.286184/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/hadrian-continues-his-travels.286184/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/hadrian-continues-his-travels.286184/</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 2617989, member: 39084"]Here are a few of my observations/experiences with auction houses regarding unsold lots. First, it seems to be standard practice for auction houses to offer unsold lots (post-auction) at the opening bid plus 15% (or whatever is their standard commission). I don't get this -- if someone wanted to pay opening bid plus commission, they would have done so during the auction -- but don't be taken aback if this is their initial response. Second, if you want to offer a lower-than-opening bid, you should certainly feel comfortable doing so. In the event that the auction house actually owns the coin, you might have a decent chance of reaching a mutually agreeable lower price. But if the consignor still owns the coin (very likely), the auction house will need to communicate your offer to the consignor and get a response from him/her. Even in this case, the auction house will still want a commission -- probably their standard commission -- and probably won't be very cooperative in negotiating on your behalf with the consignor. This varies -- German auction houses have a terrible reputation for being difficult to deal with -- but my limited experience indicates that this middleman type of negotiation can be arduous and unlikely to succeed. My specific advice is to make an offer that includes the commission you're willing to pay and be sure to tell the auction house that your offer includes whatever commission they might charge. But don't hold your breath. Assuming this approach fails to reach an agreement, just wait for the coin to show up in another auction. For a more detailed story about my specific experience in a similar situation, see my posting in this thread: [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/hadrian-continues-his-travels.286184/[/url][/QUOTE]
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