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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Speedbump, post: 2525397, member: 75637&quot;]Most commercially available safes are crap. Unless you are considering a TL rated safe, don’t waste your money. Fire safes and gun safes can be busted open reasonably quickly with stuff you probably already have in your garage. If you are willing to spend several $1,000’s on a quality high-security safe or vault, your next step would be to locate it in a good spot. Somewhere not obvious (not the master bedroom closet), where it can be secured to the floor (preferably concrete), and where the building’s structure can limit access to the sides and leverage on the door. Be mindful that a 2,000lbs+ safe can damage your house if placed over wood structure. Fire rated composite TL rated safes are large and heavy. </p><p><br /></p><p>A TL-15 will deter most any common burglar, especially with an alarm system that limits their time in your house. If you are concerned about more professional thieves that may know how to force open a safe, then a TL-30 or TL-30x6 would be better. A monitored alarm system is important here as a thief will have all the time in the world if there is no one there to catch him.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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