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<p>[QUOTE="Bruce Jonathan Fick, post: 2098162, member: 73845"]The simulated coin has to seem way too nice to be a genuine MS 63. Think for a moment how these coins were made from 1878-1904. </p><p>They minted almost 1/2 BILLION Morgan dollar business strikes that </p><p>were unwanted, & unneeded as a concession to the mining interests </p><p>in Colorado and Nevada. Can you say Govt subsidy ? They were 2 </p><p>beer dollars and got resewn into Mint bags after the banks sent them </p><p>back. They didn't want them either. It was only after the WW1 melts </p><p>that they appreciated in value. The artisanship that made them Silver engraved fine art on the dies got compromised when they were treated</p><p>like coarse gravel being dumped into $ 1,000 bags. So if this counter</p><p>feited simulation were a genuine 1901, chances are it would have scuff</p><p>marks, rim contact marks on the devices & fields, abrasions of all sorts.</p><p>And hairlines incused. The American Numismatic Association recognizes</p><p>all that as the pattern of damage done to U.S. coins after minting but</p><p>before circulating. So after the Chinese counterfeiters make a replica</p><p>they have to judge how much simulated damage they must do to it to</p><p>palm it off as if it were a genuine to the unsuspecting. That's why it </p><p>looks so clean as if it rested on top of the 1,000 coin mint bag. NGC</p><p>has a section on counterfeits to link to to expand your knowledge base.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce Jonathan Fick, post: 2098162, member: 73845"]The simulated coin has to seem way too nice to be a genuine MS 63. Think for a moment how these coins were made from 1878-1904. They minted almost 1/2 BILLION Morgan dollar business strikes that were unwanted, & unneeded as a concession to the mining interests in Colorado and Nevada. Can you say Govt subsidy ? They were 2 beer dollars and got resewn into Mint bags after the banks sent them back. They didn't want them either. It was only after the WW1 melts that they appreciated in value. The artisanship that made them Silver engraved fine art on the dies got compromised when they were treated like coarse gravel being dumped into $ 1,000 bags. So if this counter feited simulation were a genuine 1901, chances are it would have scuff marks, rim contact marks on the devices & fields, abrasions of all sorts. And hairlines incused. The American Numismatic Association recognizes all that as the pattern of damage done to U.S. coins after minting but before circulating. So after the Chinese counterfeiters make a replica they have to judge how much simulated damage they must do to it to palm it off as if it were a genuine to the unsuspecting. That's why it looks so clean as if it rested on top of the 1,000 coin mint bag. NGC has a section on counterfeits to link to to expand your knowledge base.[/QUOTE]
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