Message:

<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Bruce Jonathan Fick, post: 2098139, member: 73845&quot;]Imho, though am anything but an experienced seasoned expert</p><p>on Morgan dollars, I do collect the rare dates &amp; mintmarks in MS</p><p>and the espercialy the DMPLs in high MS grades ( above MS 64 )</p><p>So I&#039;ve researched as much as I can absorb on the topic of Chinese</p><p>counterfeits. And this 1901 Morgan looks like a forged reproduction...</p><p>Ditto the holder. It&#039;s no secret that there&#039;s a state of the art factory</p><p>somewhere in China that cranks out an alarming number of rare</p><p>date Morgans from forged dies. And that they&#039;ve been flooding the</p><p>USA with expertly made counterfeits. Unless someone is dilligent </p><p>in comparing them side by side with an authentic one, it&#039;s too easy</p><p>to be conned. We know that in the 1921 Morgans Liberty appears </p><p>differently than in 1904. The 1921 appears more masculine than</p><p>the original school teacher who modled for Chief Engraver Morgan.</p><p><br /></p><p>Only going on a hunch here, but the mouth of Liberty seems to me</p><p>at least to appear different than a genuine 1901. Check out the 1895</p><p>Proof that Kazuma78 has photoed as his avatar immage. The upper</p><p>lip of Liberty seems 180 degrees, yet the bottom lip seems angled at</p><p>135 degrees downward. On a normal business strike both lips should </p><p>flare out the top lip up, the bottom lip downward. The lips on Liberty&#039;s mouth appear recessed inward on this fake. I&#039;d expect more definition</p><p>of the Eagle&#039;s feathers for a genuine Philadelphia Mint 1901. This fake</p><p>has the breast feather pattern of a 1921 ; the feathers are very weak</p><p>like a New Orleans Minted Morgan. Wierd. Unless I&#039;m seeing things,</p><p>these are my observations. </p><p><br /></p><p>Also, the only genuine 1901 MS Morgans I&#039;ve ever seen have genuine</p><p>NGC or PCGS holders which are a known target for counterfeiters. And</p><p>it seems odd that a genuine 1901 would be auctioned at less than a</p><p>Heritage or Stacks &amp; Bowers auction house which is a reputable place</p><p>to bid on a 1901 MS Morgan. If I have my facts straight, the Treasury</p><p>melted the MS Morgans stored closest to the vault doors during WW1.</p><p>Making the 1901 exceptionaly rare in any grade of MS. I&#039;ve always seen</p><p>reputable coin dealers offer them on a Buy It Now basis on Ebay. No</p><p>need for anyone to feel sick they missed out on this fake as it&#039;s far far better to have your $1800+ of cash than $0000- of nothing, and worse</p><p>knowing you&#039;ve been taken by Fraudsters. You can always make up the bread, but the humiliation of being defrauded will linger a lot longer, no?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

Your name or email address:

Do you already have an account?

• No, create an account now.
• Yes, my password is:
• Forgot your password?

Stay logged in